LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, rebelpilot said:

I swear I memory holed seeing the 75412 battleback when the confidential watermark leaks occurred, but seeing the latest leak I'm a bit confused and disappointed.

I'm not ordinarily one to wishlist what battlepacks should be but I'm a bit baffled that Lego went with uber scene specific death troopers (and stormtroopers) and I'm glad to read I'm not the only one.

I get they're from Ahsoka, a series I've not seen, but I think a more generic troop battlepack with plain death troopers from Andor/Rogue One/Mandolorian would be more ideal.

I don't even have a horse in this race, I've got enough death troopers from 2017 but if you're going to go to the effort of bringing back a troop I'd still like people to be able to get a more multipurpose and in demand version.

I'm still holding my breath for a Pre-Mor Security Officer (i.e. Corpo Syril with a different head) to show up in an advent calendar. Note: it didn't happen in 2022 or 2023 so I know it's not happening now but if a Bespin Guard can be included and it still be one of the best advent calendars, why not Pre-Mor Security?

I get that it's not the same situation but it is funny to see what is, essentially, the argument that night troopers are too obscure to deserve their set, immediately followed by requesting more Pre-Mor security.

The thing about the night troopers is they've been set up to be a major part of the mandoverse era- we know they'll be back for Ahsoka S2, and likely feature in the Filoni movie as well. Right now they're only in one show, but they'll be a major force to be reckoned with. 

Now that's not to say we shouldn't ALSO be getting a BP with normal death troopers soon- some mix of stormies, death troopers, and shoretroopers would be awesome- just that the night troopers definitely deserve their spot as a battle pack.

4 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

There's a free Star Wars bundle drawing you can enter till May 8th on the Lego website.

Thanks for letting us know!

They really bury the lead with this one- my first thought was "this is kind of an odd assortment for a giveaway", but no, it comes with a $500 gift card for more sets. Goes from relatively uninteresting to free august wave in a second.

[Agent Kallus]

3 hours ago, rebelpilot said:

I'm not ordinarily one to wishlist what battlepacks should be but I'm a bit baffled that Lego went with uber scene specific death troopers (and stormtroopers) and I'm glad to read I'm not the only one.

I get they're from Ahsoka, a series I've not seen, but I think a more generic troop battlepack with plain death troopers from Andor/Rogue One/Mandolorian would be more ideal.

Well the night trooper Stormtroopers were quite prominent in several episodes and are set to return in the next series and probably the film so I'm glad to get them ( TBH between the magazine and some mid range sets with a 3+ troopers I think stormtroopers are in desperate need of a BP right now, I'd rather see other more unique imperial units like purge and incinerator troopers) the main problem is the trooper ratio as the death trooper ones are way less common in the story. Si ce they're bumping the price up and the ship seats 5 they could've done 2:3 or even bwtter 1:4

 

4 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

There's a free Star Wars bundle drawing you can enter till May 8th on the Lego website.

Ohhh, thanks for pointing this out!

33 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

 

Ha, that's the thing, the coverage must have reached reached rock bottom (no offense to your nickname), if releasing a single desirable and nice looking minifigure is considered a pretty significant bone.

And the Accolyte doesn't even get that, it would be a very significant bone indeed!!

As a big fan of the high republic book fan I know they're not gonna make book based sets but it's real shame the only high republic tangential content they've covered in YGA and the figs are very cartoonised making it hard to reporpose their parts, I mean given what the show is it's understandable and it's nowhere near as bad as the TCW faces of my youth.

I'd give Tanalor for set with Dagan Gera! ( I might have just bought his black series figure today!!)

33 minutes ago, Llewop said:

Does make me wonder though are people here on Eurobricks because we are Lego fans first or Star Wars fans? 

To be honest I think I got into both at about the same time! So if have a hard time slotting myself into either camp!!

Star wars is far from the only theme I follow and I do enjoy creating my own things, but saved up to go Japan because Star Wars Celebration was gonna be there ( I mean I already wanted to go but that was made me start planning) so I consider myself deep into both camps!

23 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

They're forgetting that they're a toy brand, and that most lego star wars fans are here for lego star wars sets, not legoized versions of other star wars merchandise.

I think the problem is here is that Lego noticed Adults like and buy their sees so they made sets just for adults but the type of adults that were already buying the sets and that would be part of a Lego fan community like Eurobricks already like what they made before, so the sets they made because of Afols are actually more targeted at people weren't already adults fans of Lego. Of course there's plenty of 18+ sets that I adore abdvim sure many of us feels the same. But I do think 'traditional' minifig playsets should be the bread and butter of the Lego group. Yet considering how we've seen this process progress their current modus operandi must be working out for them, even if it's not what we like to see.

 

[BrickPrick]

2 hours ago, Llewop said:

I say it all the time we are at a point now with Star Wars that there are so many different things/eras you can not cater to everyone. Balance is needed of course but unfortunately some people are always going to be disappointed and more importantly some people are going to argue that there bit of SW deserves more than this bit etc etc end of the day the biggest issue is the death of the traditional LEGO Star Wars set that was aimed at all ages. 18+ sets aren’t going away and it’s going to be at the cost of the sets we all love. Even still without the 18+ sets on the shelves we would still be arguing that someone’s era of Star Wars isn’t getting enough coverage. The only way to please everyone would be to do 100 sets a year and you know that would be ridiculous because no one could afford that or want that really. 

Been on here so long that I’ve seen people crying for clones to hating clones, from being bored of Luke’s landspeeder to wanting it done again. 

I think if enough people don’t like the sets and don’t buy them eventually Lego will get the message but again Lego can release what they want nobody forces us to buy them. Most of us probably dip our toes in other Lego themes so for me last years average LSW year was good because I could focus what little money I can afford on Lego in to other projects. 

Does make me wonder though are people here on Eurobricks because we are Lego fans first or Star Wars fans? 

Yes, of course. Like i said in one of my first postings, it's gotta be challenging to juggle between all these different sub-themes all at once. This is the "content over cinema" kinda era. Not the early simple days, when you had a single movie come out every three years and could then easily focus on a single ongoing show. And yep, it's impossible to cater to everybody. And i would argue this would help matters at all. If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one.

What we do need (and is in the realm of possibility) is a return of balancing play sets out at least a bit better than what we have right now. This can be done with or without the 18+ sets/extra formats. Even with all this additional stuff, nobody can tell me that you absolutely have to have both flagship sets of the upcoming summer August wave to be of TCW/ROTS origin. And if we only had like half of the Adults Welcome products, we could even have something of a reasonable 50:50 split between OT and PT, plus still some sets based on new shows. However, i don't see this 18+ madness gonna stop anytime soon. 

I consider myself to be both a Star Wars and Lego fan, potentially the former a bit more than the latter. Even though it's such a magical connection that it isn't easily severed from one another. And if i remember correctly, i got into both at pretty much the exact time. While there are a few other licensed themes that are interesting to me as well, i think without Lego Star Wars i would not have registered on Eurobricks. So, i would make the distinction between a Lego Star Wars fan first and a Lego fan second. 

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

And the Accolyte doesn't even get that, it would be a very significant bone indeed!!

I'd give Tanalor for set with Dagan Gera! ( I might have just bought his black series figure today!!)

Well, if we are to compare mainline episodes with single seasonal shows, i can play this game, too. And even go a little beyond that... neither did Tales of the Jedi, Empire, and probably, Underworld. 

But yeah, i get it... If all you get to eat is a whole lot of Nothing-Burgers for the better part of a decade, you better cherish that bone... fleeting at that might be.

That was a solid boss battle in Jedi Survivor. The one and only The Black Series figure that i own is Cad Bane. As compensation for never owning one of his minifigs, until that finally changed as well.

Edited 21 hours ago by BrickPrick

[CloneCommando99]

7 hours ago, MKJoshA said:

There's a free Star Wars bundle drawing you can enter till May 8th on the Lego website.

Thanks 

 

Andor S2 episodes 4-6 tomorrow. Can’t wait to see what else Lego’s fumbled.

 

Day #9 of asking Lego for an official Tie Avenger.

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

They really bury the lead with this one- my first thought was "this is kind of an odd assortment for a giveaway", but no, it comes with a $500 gift card for more sets. Goes from relatively uninteresting to free august wave in a second.

If I won I’d use it to get either Jabba’s sail barge or Avengers Tower/ X-Mansion and the Daily Bugle (with my own contributions as well)

Edited 19 hours ago by CloneCommando99

[Mandalorianknight]

45 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Andor S2 episodes 4-6 tomorrow. Can’t wait to see what else Lego’s fumbled.

 

If I won I’d use it to get either Jabba’s sail barge or Avengers Tower/ X-Mansion and the Daily Bugle (with my own contributions as well)

I still have to finish this arc- in my defense I've been busy, but still, it's not really Andor's fault, I've just been burned out by disney. Putting Andor S2  literally a week after a show that was also following on from a critically acclaimed series commonly seen as the best in it's franchise, but in it's case ended up completely dropping the ball, doesn't help.

Definitely use it for the bugle if you win- that might be the best marvel set ever made. Actually, no- it is unequivocally the best marvel set ever made and perfectly encapsulates what the theme should be.

I'd get two U-wings to make a big one, and since it's lego's money I'd be spending, an absurd amount of Night Trooper BPs and give away a ton of Nightdeath troopers. The laatle is my version of the Coruscant Lamppost from the Kelleran Beq set. I should write the designer a fan letter.

2 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

I consider myself to be both a Star Wars and Lego fan, potentially the former a bit more than the latter. Even though it's such a magical connection that it isn't easily severed from one another. And if i remember correctly, i got into both at pretty much the exact time. While there are a few other licensed themes that are interesting to me as well, i think without Lego Star Wars i would not have registered on Eurobricks. So, i would make the distinction between a Lego Star Wars fan first and a Lego fan second. 

That's a good way of putting it.

I'm not sure how I'd put it for me. In terms of money spent- definitely a lego fan over star wars. Aside from a disney+ subscription I still mooch from my parents and the occasional movie ticket or secondhand novel, I don't buy much star wars merch that isn't lego, but lego used to comprise 90% of my nonessential, non-saved income. The percentage has gone down as they don't produce as many sets I want and space fills up, but it's still the lion's share of the merch money I spend. And I spend a lot of time designing my own sets. But on the other hand, I'm into lego purely as a product and as a designing method, not as a story product. Almost all of my lego purchases are for licensed themes. I have some affinity for stuff like Classic Space, but the only lego story I ever cared about was bionicle, and I wouldn't at all be disappointed if bionicle was instead a separate IP that lego just adapted into sets.

3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Well the night trooper Stormtroopers were quite prominent in several episodes and are set to return in the next series and probably the film so I'm glad to get them ( TBH between the magazine and some mid range sets with a 3+ troopers I think stormtroopers are in desperate need of a BP right now, I'd rather see other more unique imperial units like purge and incinerator troopers) the main problem is the trooper ratio as the death trooper ones are way less common in the story. Si ce they're bumping the price up and the ship seats 5 they could've done 2:3 or even bwtter 1:4

 

And the Accolyte doesn't even get that, it would be a very significant bone indeed!!

5 figs in the set would have been really nice, and I would have gotten a financially irresponsible amount even at $23 if it had 4 night troopers and a death trooper in one copy of the set. I'd have a swarm of laatles.

I've made my opinion on Acolyte and how lego did some Neo-level bullet dodging clear, but in 2029 I wouldn't at all mind a Master Sol figure being one of the anniversary ones (alongside Mara Jade, of course). He looks cool, I didn't mind him much, and importantly, he's a good way to get generic HR robes out there. (That said, to that latter point I think I'd prefer Dagan Gera)

3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

I'd give Tanalor for set with Dagan Gera!

You can't give Tanalor! It's Mine!

Edited 19 hours ago by Mandalorianknight

[Darth_Bane13]

I don't think it makes much sense for Lego to make more sequel sets, the demand is too low right now.

[BrickPrick]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Andor S2 episodes 4-6 tomorrow. Can’t wait to see what else Lego’s fumbled.

If I won I’d use it to get either Jabba’s sail barge or Avengers Tower/ X-Mansion and the Daily Bugle (with my own contributions as well)

Since i don't know if my Lego gonna arrive in time, i try to be strong and save those three episodes for this sunday. It's gonna be tough resisting for so long. Gonna look forward to your reactions that may or not be considered dangerously close to spoiler territory, though.

If i won i would get the UCS Slave 1 without batting an eyelash. 

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

That's a good way of putting it.

I've made my opinion on Acolyte and how lego did some Neo-level bullet dodging clear, but in 2029 I wouldn't at all mind a Master Sol figure being one of the anniversary ones (alongside Mara Jade, of course). He looks cool, I didn't mind him much, and importantly, he's a good way to get generic HR robes out there. (That said, to that latter point I think I'd prefer Dagan Gera)

I come from the original Lego Star Wars Videogame as well. Which actually released shortly before ROTS hit the silver screen. So you could have spoiled yourself via various cutscenes. The movie tie-in games situation was absolutely crazy back then. 

Oh no, don't go, admirable Acolyte, i will be so miserable without you. 

43 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I don't think it makes much sense for Lego to make more sequel sets, the demand is too low right now.

Commercially, it doesn't make much sense for Lego. Emotionally, it doesn't make any sense for me. So i see it as a win-win-situation. For the dozens of other people out there... they probably won't see it that way. 

Edited 18 hours ago by BrickPrick

[lego the hutt]

5 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

 

Commercially, it doesn't make much sense for Lego. Emotionally, it doesn't make any sense for me. So i see it as a win-win-situation. For the dozens of other people out there... they probably won't see it that way. 

Give it 10-15 years.  The sequels will start to get more love the same way the prequels did.

That being said, I'd buy an Exegol/emperor's throne set 🤷

[Clone OPatra]

14 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

Give it 10-15 years.  The sequels will start to get more love the same way the prequels did.

People keep saying this, but I really don't see it, to the same extent. The prequels are clunky films with some relatively interesting ideas, plus a lot of new memorable iconography (ships, droids, characters, etc).

The sequels are slick films with relatively uninteresting ideas that devolve as they go along, and besides a few trooper designs and Kylo Ren, a minor amount of memorable iconography that isn't just something slightly modified from the OT.

George also kept building on the Prequels with Clone Wars debuting only a few years after RotS, feeding into a generation of fondness for the era, whereas here we are six years after Rise of Skywalker and Disney is yet to set anything during the actual sequel timeline or with sequel characters (partially because the sequel timeline is so condensed).

So no, I don't think there's going to be a rush of admiration for the sequels unless they can get a Rey movie/trilogy off the ground that actually builds on the sequels and helps anyone like them retrospectively.

As for LEGO, the company should really prioritise filling the remaining prequel gaps before they do more sequel material, IMO. Insane we still haven't gotten Shmi and Boss Nass after all these years.

[BrickPrick]

28 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

Give it 10-15 years.  The sequels will start to get more love the same way the prequels did.

That being said, I'd buy an Exegol/emperor's throne set 🤷

Somehow... i doubt that. If anything, in hindsight, the ST contributed to the PT finding much more appreciation again. For the time being, the ST is gonna be stuck in a vacuum, which can not feel anything. 

4 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

People keep saying this, but I really don't see it, to the same extent. The prequels are clunky films with some relatively interesting ideas, plus a lot of new memorable iconography (ships, droids, characters, etc).

The sequels are slick films with relatively uninteresting ideas that devolve as they go along, and besides a few trooper designs and Kylo Ren, a minor amount of memorable iconography that isn't just something slightly modified from the OT.

George also kept building on the Prequels with Clone Wars debuting only a few years after RotS, feeding into a generation of fondness for the era, whereas here we are six years after Rise of Skywalker and Disney is yet to set anything during the actual sequel timeline or with sequel characters (partially because the sequel timeline is so condensed).

So no, I don't think there's going to be a rush of admiration for the sequels unless they can get a Rey movie/trilogy off the ground that actually builds on the sequels and helps anyone like them retrospectively.

As for LEGO, the company should really prioritise filling the remaining prequel gaps before they do more sequel material, IMO. Insane we still haven't gotten Shmi and Boss Nass after all these years.

Exactly. If i get asked what the main difference between both trilogies is, i will answer with one word: vision. For better or for worse, George had a vision for the prequels. There was a beginning, a middle and an ending. He was very ambitious and keen to do new things in terms of world building. The amount of new locations, ships, species that got created is just insane. It showcases the sheer passion around every corner, like that man clearly cared about Star Wars as his own big baby. Yes, with just a little more time in the editing room to smooth out some of the rough edges, these movies could have been a lot better. Like Lucas is a great visionary who got all these ideas down on paper, but shouldn't necessarily been the person to decide how to execute everything in practice. But then you got Disney Star Wars executives for the ST, well... don't get me started. It's a night and day difference.

On topic, though... Yes! Unbelievable that we still haven't gotten both Shmi and Boss Nass as minifigures. They were primed to finally show up during last year's 25th TPM anniversary, but alas...

 

I mean you could fill up a whole CMF series with just the Mos Espa Podrace participants, for crying out loud. 

[rebelpilot]

11 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I get that it's not the same situation..

Yes you're right, it's not the same situation.

And nowhere did I write that death night troopers don't "deserve" their set.

The time for Pre-Mor Security in an advent calendar has passed, it was specific to 2022-23 when the parts (hat and torso) were already in production, it would be silly to want or expect Lego to bring them back now. The comment was tongue in cheek ("I'm holding my breath for") and clarified in the next sentence. I was referring to a comment about troops nobody wants multiples of. I'm the weirdo that wanted multiples of Pre-Mor Security and Bespin Guards, of which I'm happy to have gotten multiples of because of the 2016 advent calendar.

11 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Well the night trooper Stormtroopers were quite prominent in several episodes and are set to return in the next series and probably the film so I'm glad to get them

I did not know there was a second season or film in (presumably pre-production) the making, I stand corrected. Hopefully the battlepack is still in production when they are released. 

 

 

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, rebelpilot said:

Yes you're right, it's not the same situation.

And nowhere did I write that death night troopers don't "deserve" their set.

The time for Pre-Mor Security in an advent calendar has passed, it was specific to 2022-23 when the parts (hat and torso) were already in production, it would be silly to want or expect Lego to bring them back now. The comment was tongue in cheek ("I'm holding my breath for") and clarified in the next sentence. I was referring to a comment about troops nobody wants multiples of. I'm the weirdo that wanted multiples of Pre-Mor Security and Bespin Guards, of which I'm happy to have gotten multiples of because of the 2016 advent calendar.

I did not know there was a second season or film in (presumably pre-production) the making, I stand corrected. Hopefully the battlepack is still in production when they are released. 

Apologies, my comment was a joke as well, sorry if it came across as serious.

I wouldn't mind Pre-Mor multiples either, just to stuff a couple more in the Andor gunship, but I agree it's not happening.

I believe it just started filming, the director headed out right after celebration a week or two ago. It'll follow on from those to a film presumably also featuring night troopers- we know the second season is next year, so the set will 100% still be on shelves by then.

3 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

People keep saying this, but I really don't see it, to the same extent. The prequels are clunky films with some relatively interesting ideas, plus a lot of new memorable iconography (ships, droids, characters, etc).

As for LEGO, the company should really prioritise filling the remaining prequel gaps before they do more sequel material, IMO. Insane we still haven't gotten Shmi and Boss Nass after all these years.

What it comes down to is whether or not little kids who saw the movies are going to be attached to the characters. Right now, most people online who saw the movies did so when they were old enough to be exposed to the internet's opinions. Little Jimmy and Jessica who's parents showed them the saga on disney+ five years ago, and who are going to eventually go online with a love for those movies already set, are going to start influencing the public opinion and, more importantly, buying the sets.

I don't disagree on that- the 33/33/33 strategy I've been extolling here includes the sequels alongside mando and many of the other spinoffs as that last 33% of sets rather than the other two trilogies, which generally get thirds to themselves- but I do think it's fair to say that kids deserve having generic Rey/Kylo/Finn/Poe/BB-8 figures on shelves as much as adults deserve Shmi or Boss Nass- because I promise you, there are zero children out there looking for Shmi Skywalker minifigs (Boss Nass might have some support among kids- I wouldn't say much since he's not the most well known and a noncombatant, but he does look and talk funny). 

9 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

I come from the original Lego Star Wars Videogame as well. Which actually released shortly before ROTS hit the silver screen. So you could have spoiled yourself via various cutscenes. The movie tie-in games situation was absolutely crazy back then. 

Oh no, don't go, admirable Acolyte, i will be so miserable without you. 

I've heard about that- it used to be pretty consistent for star wars. Even the first novelization came out before the movie. And Marvel's ROTJ adaption was pulled from shelves for being released before the film as well.

Ha! I like the alliteration.

10 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I don't think it makes much sense for Lego to make more sequel sets, the demand is too low right now.

Regardless of what you think the perceived demand is, I think we can all agree the two sets they chose are possibly the worst way to go about it.

Edited 8 hours ago by Mandalorianknight

[Agent Kallus]

11 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Well, if we are to compare mainline episodes with single seasonal shows, i can play this game, too. And even go a little beyond that... neither did Tales of the Jedi, Empire, and probably, Underworld. 

And they all should have!

Imagine it! Small duel sets with Dooku V Yaddle, The Fourth Sister V Bariss, Grevious V night sisters! Other sets too! The City gate with Admiral Thrawn, Pelleon, Rukh and Morgan Elsbeth,  ¡ɟlǝsɹǝɥ ssǝɹʇuǝΛ puɐ uɐluᴉnQ 'uɐʍ-ᴉqO ɥʇᴉʍ pǝʌᴉʌǝɹ sᴉ ɾɾɐs∀ ǝɹǝɥʍ ǝldɯǝʇ ɹǝʇsᴉs ʇɥƃᴉN ǝɥ┴, the animal with baby Ahsoka and her mother! I could go on!

Even visions could've gotten something! Okay the shirts are all very separate but now that we know 'the Ninth jedi' is getting a full show it could get some coverage!

I mean this is something that they'd have so much more room to do if they didn't dedicate so much of the line to sculptures instead of playsets. I've said it before but they could make a separate umbrella line that contains multiple licences ( like brickheadz, Bricksketches or Art) for the prop replicas and the like, and that's where they could put your Bo Katan Helmet, your Dobby's sock, your Batman's left glove; or whatever.

 

9 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

He looks cool, I didn't mind him much, and importantly, he's a good way to get generic HR robes out there. (That said, to that latter point I think I'd prefer Dagan Gera)

Both, Both is good!

I mean if I could pick only character to be made from the Accolyte I'd actually go with Vernestra. Which is a little ironic as his they portrayed her was one of my leat favourite parts of the show but she's a great character in the books and so if be able to give a duplicate some purple hair and brown mid legs to make her book version.

10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

You can't give Tanalor! It's Mine!

Tanalor is mine!!!

But on the topic of Jedi fallen order; Lego has been getting more and more into videogame stuff. Minecraft had been going a while but now they've picked up Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Horizon, maybe Arkham in the new Asylum set. So maybe they'll finally take the chance and do a stinger mantis for the third game.

3 hours ago, lego the hutt said:

Give it 10-15 years.  The sequels will start to get more love the same way the prequels did.

I'm gonna agree with @Clone OPatra here. 

Personally I've really enjoyed the vast majority of what Lucas film have put out under Disney however the sequel trilogy is a pretty glaring exception!Episode 7 played it too safe in terms of story but especially in terms of aesthetics which means this era lacks a lot of it's own iconography! The biggest thing with the while trilogy is how they basically rushed it out, leaving it 'undercooked', tight deadlines were put on Lucas film by Bob Iger and now i almost feel glad that they're taking their time and allowing delays for future films, hopefully they won't be such a mess. Episode 9 is the only star wars film I actively dislike and I don't want a repeat of that!

As Clone OPatra says the lack of unique iconography and ambitious storytelling give this era less of a chance to receive the prequel treatment. Tie in content does exist but it is sparse. Resistance is an okay show but it falls below it's peers, partly due to restrictions made on its storytelling options as it was made alongside the films unlike TCW that came after. The show did do some things right, the First Order has far more of an intimidating presence here than the empire ever did in Rebels, a star destroyer meant so much more, Tam's turn to the first order is excellent; however the show never really captured the imagination the way Rebels, The Bad Batch or The Clone wars did. I didn't fall in love with the show or it's characters unlike the others I've mentioned, and I'm not alone here, resistance will never be to the sequels what The Clone wars was for the prequels.

3 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

So no, I don't think there's going to be a rush of admiration for the sequels unless they can get a Rey movie/trilogy off the ground

I hope the Rey movie is in a properly distinct new era, not just a continuation of the sequel era.

 

10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Aside from a disney+ subscription I still mooch from my parents and the occasional movie ticket or secondhand novel, I don't buy much star wars merch that isn't lego, but lego used to comprise 90% of my nonessential, non-saved income

I'm sorta in a similar camp ( except it's my sister who pays for Disney plus ) but the main non- Lego star wars stuff I buy is books. I'm planning on reading more Legends stuff once the high republic wraps up. I mentioned getting the Dagan Gera Black Series figure earlier, but he's my first black Series figure, though I do plan on getting more.

 

2 hours ago, rebelpilot said:

I'm the weirdo that wanted multiples of Pre-Mor Security and Bespin Guards, of which I'm happy to have gotten multiples of because of the 2016 advent calendar.

14 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Well the night trooper Stormtroopers were quite prominent in several episodes and are set to return in the next series and probably the film so I'm glad to get them

I did not know there was a second season or film in (presumably pre-production) the making, I stand corrected. Hopefully the battlepack is still in production when they are released. 

 

I think a lot of us would have liked more massable Pre-Mor guys! Though I'm sure we are all weirdos here anyway .

Season 2 is filming now for a release next year, so I'd expect the set the set to still be on shelves for it. The Maul mech also has it's suspected shelf life line up with his show's planned release.

[Clone OPatra]

13 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

What it comes down to is whether or not little kids who saw the movies are going to be attached to the characters. 

Personally I think there's more to it than that, which partially comes down to whether or not Disney keeps the characters and general timeline of the sequels alive or not. Apart from some pivots surrounding the backlash to Jar Jar, George always stood by his choices/films and, like I said, kept the Prequel timeline alive with new material like the Clone Wars show.

Disney set out to do all they could to distance themselves from the prequels, yet had obviously lost faith in their own new trilogy by the end of it, and now have done all they can to focus on anything but the sequels. People having seen and liked the films as kids isn't enough alone. Some (good) Rey movies to keep it going would help.

[Agent Kallus]

10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I've made my opinion on Acolyte and how lego did some Neo-level bullet dodging clear

I won't argue with you about the Accolyte here, we don't all have to like the same things, but I wonder what the opposite of that phrase would be? Catching arrows like Boromir?

[lego the hutt]

56 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

And ...

This is crazily formatted and full of disconnected thoughts so I'll just delete it all but .. 

My question is, were you an adult in the fandom when the prequels released?  

Do you understand that the backlash and hate/dislike the sequels have received is nothing in comparison?  It's night and day how much worse people disliked the prequels.  It's not close.  The prequel hate was many, many, many times worse.

It's cyclical.  People will come around on the sequels as well.  It's not even a question.

[Clone OPatra]

36 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

Do you understand that the backlash and hate/dislike the sequels have received is nothing in comparison?  It's night and day how much worse people disliked the prequels.  It's not close.  The prequel hate was many, many, many times worse.

The backlash to Last Jedi was absolutely immense. So immense that Disney quickly changed course on their series.

But it's different. People were clamoring for and wondering about new Star Wars for 15 years when Phantom Menace released, and it was the Star Wars creator himself delivering odd and clunky ideas with slow pacing where zippy inventive fun and relatable characters had once reigned.

People were very excited for the sequels, but still approaching it with some trepidation now that it was Big Corporate running the show. I remember the rumours of Force Awakens starting with Luke's hand floating through space and thinking, ok, we'll wait and see.

"Half the excitement, .5 the letdown" - Count Dooku.

[Agent Kallus]

42 minutes ago, lego the hutt said:

This is crazily formatted and full of disconnected thoughts so I'll just delete it all but .. 

My question is, were you an adult in the fandom when the prequels released?  

Do you understand that the backlash and hate/dislike the sequels have received is nothing in comparison?  It's night and day how much worse people disliked the prequels.  It's not close.  The prequel hate was many, many, many times worse.

It's cyclical.  People will come around on the sequels as well.  It's not even a question.

I wasn't even a child in the fandom when phantom menace came out. I wasn't even born til later on that same year. So no, but it's hardly fair to pretend that means I don't know what I'm talking about.

And I've heard all that about how the prequel hates saw so much worse. But that's kinda irrelevant, the question isn't how much it's hated, it's if it could have a renaissance, and sure it could but I don't think it will, at least not to the same extent.

And it is a question. Everything is a question, certainty is a luxury only some can afford. For all we know the sun could explode tomorrow or a meteor could trigger armageddon, so no it's not guaranteed.

6 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

The backlash to Last Jedi was absolutely immense. So immense that Disney quickly changed course on their series.

Indeed, an overcorrection I personally think. The Last Jedi isn't a favourite of mine but it's leagues ahead of episode 9.

[BrickBob Studpants]

So, about that recast… No offense to the actor, but I’m getting strong “we have [actor] at home” vibes  (This is not a spoiler since the recast has been publicly announced a while ago)

Also, we have out of box pictures of the three June sets! The new Plo looks so much better than the old one!

[Agent Kallus]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Also, we have out of box pictures of the three June sets! The new Plo looks so much better than the old one!

There is a video review of the June wave out on YouTube by Duck bricks if anyone wants a even closer look.

[BrickPrick]

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Ha! I like the alliteration.

Oh, at long last, what a revelation... An alliteration is what it's called. Let me tell you... i am full of it. All this time i have wondered what the heck is wrong with me. And wether or not there is a specific word for it. Of course there is. Thanks to you, i know that know. 

5 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

And they all should have!

Imagine it! Small duel sets with Dooku V Yaddle, The Fourth Sister V Bariss, Grevious V night sisters! Other sets too! The City gate with Admiral Thrawn, Pelleon, Rukh and Morgan Elsbeth,  ¡ɟlǝsɹǝɥ ssǝɹʇuǝΛ puɐ uɐluᴉnQ 'uɐʍ-ᴉqO ɥʇᴉʍ pǝʌᴉʌǝɹ sᴉ ɾɾɐs∀ ǝɹǝɥʍ ǝldɯǝʇ ɹǝʇsᴉs ʇɥƃᴉN ǝɥ┴, the animal with baby Ahsoka and her mother! I could go on!

Even visions could've gotten something! Okay the shirts are all very separate but now that we know 'the Ninth jedi' is getting a full show it could get some coverage!

I mean this is something that they'd have so much more room to do if they didn't dedicate so much of the line to sculptures instead of playsets. I've said it before but they could make a separate umbrella line that contains multiple licences ( like brickheadz, Bricksketches or Art) for the prop replicas and the like, and that's where they could put your Bo Katan Helmet, your Dobby's sock, your Batman's left glove; or whatever.

Yes, they should have!

Dooku Vs. Yaddle Duel set would have been the obvious choice to kill two birds with one stone. But Lego is like... Nah, best we can do is releasing two 4+ sets for Young Jedi Adventures, an actual kids show. In this instance, where is their adult spirit dominating so many other sets and formats? Again, sales-wise, nobody can tell me that the aforementioned set would not have blown the 4+ sets out of the water. And considering the 4+ format has become an extraordinary greedy cash grab, that's saying something.

Only watched a few episodes of Visions, so i can't neither speak for nor against it. But it would be a quite unique line of sets for sure. 

Yes, i recently talked about this, when it comes to getting a more balanced line-up of different era playsets, the overflow of 18+ sets and all the other various formats, is the root of the problem. And like you are saying, there are smarter ways to deal with these things. 

2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

So, about that recast… No offense to the actor, but I’m getting strong “we have [actor] at home” vibes  (This is not a spoiler since the recast has been publicly announced a while ago)

Also, we have out of box pictures of the three June sets! The new Plo looks so much better than the old one!

Oh yeah, Koh-to-yah, Plo Koon, my boy! The head mould is an incredible improvement over the old one! Leg printing for the first time looks nice as well. Slight shame about only the droid's head inclusion, but hardly any surprise there. Will get the Microfighter just like the Battle Pack with a decent price drop a little later on.

Unless they are putting an interesting minifig in there, i don't care about these Mechs at all. 

Edited 3 hours ago by BrickPrick

[Swordy]

21 hours ago, Llewop said:

The only way to please everyone would be to do 100 sets a year and you know that would be ridiculous because no one could afford that or want that really. 

Been on here so long that I’ve seen people crying for clones to hating clones, from being bored of Luke’s landspeeder to wanting it done again. 

Does make me wonder though are people here on Eurobricks because we are Lego fans first or Star Wars fans? 

My question is why not hundred sets? The number of sets per year has decreased since the TCW and Sequel years, and if the 18+ sets stayed consistent in number (or even just kept the same proportion of 50/50), that’d mean more playsets we could have interest in buying. As you say, nobody forces us to buy them, but more sets is more excitement. So again, why not have more sets than shelf space going to sets and themes no one will buy?

A swing of the pendulum from one extreme to the next, the side which is unfavoured is unhappy. That’s logical. (That’s been America the past three decades.) A quick and easy way to please both sides is having a variety in sets. This was done in both winter and summer waves of 2020 and can be done again.

First and foremost a LEGO fan, then a SW fan. I’ve grown up playing out stories and building janky vehicles with LEGO, and as I got older I enjoy LEGO minifigures for storytelling and LEGO sets or MOCs for the purpose of modeling. Star Wars was a later love in life, and LSW came with it because of the connection to LEGO. Unfortunately, a LSW TIE will never quite hold the same nostalgia as a City Garbage Truck; I wish I could share that feeling the majority of you seem to have.

18 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

And yep, it's impossible to cater to everybody. And i would argue this would help matters at all. If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one.

That’s very true of works of art. It’s not true of products, though, and that’s wherein TLG’s business lies, especially when it’s children’s toys.

LEGO never made a set for one person alone; this I always remind myself. They pour hours into researching what the most successful toys can be made from LEGO bricks. Subsequently, they pour hours more into perceiving what the most popular version of that product will be.

So should LSW try to cater to everybody? Yes, that’s their business. The fact they chose only the Clone Bros as their audience this year leaves diehards of other aspects feeling shut out, much like the Clone Bros likely felt back in the Sequel days. I believe there’s a better way of doing business than swinging hard from one group to the other, and that comes through trying to cater to everybody. With a love for all SW, it is possible to know what would make fans of each group happy (things like a main character with his vehicle, the main trio included almost perennially, an assortment of villains and background characters from each era, etc), because you yourself want to see each part of the Saga get its due justice.

10 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

As for LEGO, the company should really prioritise filling the remaining prequel gaps before they do more sequel material, IMO. Insane we still haven't gotten Shmi and Boss Nass after all these years.

It was also insane it took 20 years to get around to a then-39-year old character in Zuckess, 23 years to get around to a then-45-year old character in Aunt Beru, and 25 to get around to a then-41-year old character in Nein Numb. The reign of Nass will come soon enough.

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

What it comes down to is whether or not little kids who saw the movies are going to be attached to the characters. Right now, most people online who saw the movies did so when they were old enough to be exposed to the internet's opinions. Little Jimmy and Jessica who's parents showed them the saga on disney+ five years ago, and who are going to eventually go online with a love for those movies already set, are going to start influencing the public opinion and, more importantly, buying the sets.

I suppose a benefit to coming to SW later in life was that I was afforded access to Episodes I-VIII in one go. I didn’t mind then how TLJ throw out all the elements and threads from TFA and instead chucks in two fanfic characters to put the pre-established ones in their place, or how sloggy the bombing run or nonsensical the Capital-ship space chase was. It took the voices of fandom online to bring these points to my full realization. Nevertheless, it’s also been online fandom that’s created a deeper appreciation for those same films, including TRoS. I continue to have mixed feelings on the films, but I’m in the camp of appreciating over complaining (unless it’s AotC, because that’s deservedly derided). My favourite line of the Sequels might be the one from TLJ: “We won’t win this war by destroying what we hate, but by saving what we love.”

 

Alright, about time somebody said it: AT-M6s deserve MORE! love for no reason other than they’re cooler than Hoth. The 2017 set is fine, great even, but in Kylo’s words we need MORE!

 

I’m as well in solidarity with @CloneCommando99 requesting a LEGO TIE Avenger.

Edited 2 hours ago by Swordy

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

The fact they chose only the Clone Bros as their audience this year leaves diehards of other aspects feeling shut out, much like the Clone Bros likely felt back in the Sequel days.

Yeah, maybe that’s how they felt, but the reality was quite different. Let’s take a look at what the Clone Bros got during the ST:

• 2015: Gunship & ARC-170 MF, Hailfire Droid, Geonosis Troopers BP
• 2016: Homing Spider Droid, CTT, Rex’s AT-TE
• 2017: Fighter Tank, Obi-Wan’s JF (because of Jango & Boba)
• 2018: Jedi & Clone BP
• 2019: AT-AP, Scout Walker

That’s an awful lot for people that pretend they were absolutely starving during that time

They still got at least one set a year, and quite a few of them were army-builders too, so exactly what they want! That’s not comparable to the Clone sets we’re now drowning in, with most of the non-Clone sets being 18+ ones.

At least we know that this won’t happen again anytime soon, thanks to the new movies

[Renny The Spaceman]

4 hours ago, Clone OPatra said:

The backlash to Last Jedi was absolutely immense. So immense that Disney quickly changed course on their series.

But it's different. People were clamoring for and wondering about new Star Wars for 15 years when Phantom Menace released, and it was the Star Wars creator himself delivering odd and clunky ideas with slow pacing where zippy inventive fun and relatable characters had once reigned.

People were very excited for the sequels, but still approaching it with some trepidation now that it was Big Corporate running the show. I remember the rumours of Force Awakens starting with Luke's hand floating through space and thinking, ok, we'll wait and see.

"Half the excitement, .5 the letdown" - Count Dooku.

I think the prequel backlash was worse in intensity, the "George Lucas raped my childhood" stuff dominated the internet for like 15 years with no opposing voices, while actors for the sequels were harassed it seemingly wasn't to the extent of Ahmed Best and Jake Lloyd and every sequel actor appears to had a decent career trajectory while actors like Hayden who's big break were the prequels careers mostly stalled. And of course all the harassment was allegedly a part of why Lucas eventually gave up the franchise.

Now there are two things that makes the sequel backlash different and arguably worse. The former is unlike the prequels which came out earlier in the internet so it's hate is more "sincere" if that's the right word. people hate the sequels genuinely too of course but there wasn't this online industry where people make careers over crying about wokeness and such so, while I think the tangible effects of the prequel backlash was more intense, the online echo chamber for it wasn't wrapped in political and "culture war" squabbles so they were less of a minefield in a way. Like people who would rant about the prequels just talked about the movies and not their views for on feminism so it was less likely to become quite as charged. The latter is the effect, people hated the prequels but that brought out an emotional response but most casual fans are apathetic to the sequels, no matter the response to the prequels the merch sold well after the films with LEGO for example remaining prequel centered in the years between episode 3 and the Clone Wars and after, the sequels seemingly can't manage this as well, hence the lack of sequel sets.

11 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

At least we know that this won’t happen again anytime soon, thanks to the new movies

I forget Star Wars fans are excited for a Shaun Levy movie, good luck

[BrickBob Studpants]

14 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said:

I forget Star Wars fans are excited for a Shaun Levy movie, good luck

No fan of Deadpool & Wolverine, Free Guy, or Stranger Things then?  To each their own, but you can’t really judge a movie or show solely by the director. Unless it’s Uwe Boll.

Edited 1 hour ago by BrickBob Studpants