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The really annoying thing is, I really want to support an AOTC set so it sells well to give Lego the message we want more AOTC sets. Although granted they will probably just attribute sales to it being a clone or Boba Fett set rather than AOTC specifically. But I don't want to buy the set or the figure on the secondary market Lego owns and support such a terribly inaccurate and lazy minifigure. If you looked at such a poor representation of Boba as a toy from another block brand, you'd probably laugh and think of it as 'knock off' and inferior. So just being 'Lego' shouldn't mean it has the right to be widely inaccurate and yet Lego keeps doing it and getting away with sales because they are seen as the superior brand. It frankly shows a total lack of care for customers. And the irony is, theoretically if I did buy the set or just the minifigure, I would then have to go on BL and make an order for a different hairpiece and arms and earn Lego even more money through commission.

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Posted
7 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Also, as much as I appreciate the new rangefinder piece, we really needed a new jetpack mould for Jango (that can be reused for Boba) with a proper rocket.

At least the current jetpack mold is correct for his Geonosis look, but for Kamino and Boba a new one would be nice

Posted
10 hours ago, Brickwraith said:

people keep saying lavender but if you look at this image (lavender is on the right) it's honestly farther away than sand blue is. lilac or medium violet are the closest colors lego has ever produced, but they retired in 2007 and 2004 respectively.

Yeah you've turned me around on the lavender, it's too bright. I guess ultimately it's just one of those situations where there is no good lego color for it at the moment.

12 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Also, as much as I appreciate the new rangefinder piece, we really needed a new jetpack mould for Jango (that can be reused for Boba) with a proper rocket. 

I don't appreciate the new rangefinder mold and this is one of the many reasons why- a more accurate jetpack would have been a better new mold. Or maybe a pair of molds- one of a base mando jetpack with a stud connection on the back, and the other attaching to the neck with the rocket extending out of it. You can achieve a similar look using the baby carrier neck bracket backwards, using a 1x1 with studs on sides for the base, studs with 1x1-with-bars with 1x1 cones attached to the bars for the nozzles, and a goblet with 1x1 cone on top for the rocket, but it's laughably oversized.

10 hours ago, icm said:

whose skill set is assassination, not housekeeping.

You underestimate his power, and the more domestic gadgets in that armor. He has a laundry detergent ankle blaster and a wrist-mounted duster.

5 hours ago, BacktoBricks said:

The really annoying thing is, I really want to support an AOTC set so it sells well to give Lego the message we want more AOTC sets. Although granted they will probably just attribute sales to it being a clone or Boba Fett set rather than AOTC specifically.

1. Absolutely that is what they would do, because it's how they're treating the year as a whole. 

2. That said, even in a world where we had an even spread of playsets this year, I still don't think it'd come off as "we want more AOTC stuff"- the Fetts, Mandalorains, and Clones are all very popular. And realistically, with AOTC, 90% of the set material is Obi-Wan's Delta, Jango's Slave One, or Battle of Geonosis content, most of which are vehicles lego's been including (evidently more popular) TCW or Phase 2 characters with. All that's really left beyond that is stuff like the Speeder Chase, which lego apparently decided wasn't a good set to release, or sets that clearly wouldn't work well as playsets in the modern era like Padme's ship.

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1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

And realistically, with AOTC, 90% of the set material is Obi-Wan's Delta, Jango's Slave One, or Battle of Geonosis content, most of which are vehicles lego's been including (evidently more popular) TCW or Phase 2 characters with. All that's really left beyond that is stuff like the Speeder Chase, which lego apparently decided wasn't a good set to release, or sets that clearly wouldn't work well as playsets in the modern era like Padme's ship.

I feel like there was an excellent opportunity for some smaller locations ($30-50) when we were getting those about 6-8 years ago (Ach-To Island, Obi-Wan's hut, Yoda's hut, that $40 Cantina from like 2019, the Hoth Medical Chamber, probably a couple of others that I've forgotten).  Dexter's Diner would've worked well, as well as maybe a section of the Droid Factory, and while we're not going to get a large scale Kamino playset, I do think something involving a couple of rooms and a hallway, or a landing pad plus small interior section could've been a decent set.

Apparently we're not getting location sets anymore unless it's MBS, so those are out the window now, but there are at least a couple of location sets that I think would've been solid.

I agree, though, outside of Jango/Obi-Wan's ship or clone specific stuff, it's unlikely that we're getting anything else.  I still don't get why the Speeder Chase hasn't been remade.  Clearly there's demand for it, it can absolutely be done for $50 in this day and age, and none of the colors or anything have been retired.  Two ships, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Zam, and Jango, and call it a day.  You probably don't even need a terrain side build.

Posted
21 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Gladly I've had the 2006 one for... a very long time now, but was hoping for an upgrade. I probably will still get the UCS one at some point but not for the RRP. Maybe even without some of the figures since the only ones I care about are Wooof, Max Rebo and Vizam (though I'm pretty disappointed with how Vizam turned out; he's got some inaccuracies). Will also try to get 2 more of Wooof's head+helmet to make the other 2 Kadas'sa'Nikto guards. Also need to get Ree-Yees from the 2013 version.

 

Ironically the 2006 version actually has one of the features which is missing on the UCS set: the hatches towards the front of the barge which Luke pulled one of the guards out of while he was climbing up.

I think the 2006 version still holds up well today, it actually came with the Skiff and Sarlacc and doesn't cost an arm and a leg like the new UCS one.

Posted
6 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

and none of the colors or anything have been retired.

Unfortunately the colour they used for Zam is retired, though I'm sure they have others that are close enough.

(Speaking of retired colours in AotC sets, I'm still sad about sand red since that was perfect for the Geo battle droids)

6 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

You probably don't even need a terrain side build.

Yeah they could totally throw in either Padmé's window or the ledge Zam was on, but I'd be perfectly happy with just a straight remake of the 2002 set.

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16 minutes ago, CallumPears said:

Unfortunately the colour they used for Zam is retired, though I'm sure they have others that are close enough.

I was thinking of that but thought it was still around - I guess it's that sand purple that they used for Life on Mars, huh?

Lavender seems pretty close, at least from an image.

Either way, it's remarkable to me that the only thing we've ever had remaking it was a 2013 Advent Calendar mini build.  I know there's some other sets from that era that never got direct remakes (Speeder Bike chase, Cloud Car, Watto's Junkyard, some of the little vignette builds that could combine for a scene, etc), but they've mostly been covered in other things - either part of larger sets, (or in the case of Watto's Junkyard, that was basically a couple of podracers with a side build, and we've gotten some remade podracing sets).  The only major ones that I'm seeing are the Bounty Hunter Pursuit and Jango's Slave I.  We're getting one of them, so hopefully the other comes soon, since it's not like people aren't vocal about wanting it!

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Posted
5 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

The only major ones that I'm seeing are the Bounty Hunter Pursuit and Jango's Slave I.  We're getting one of them, so hopefully the other comes soon, since it's not like people aren't vocal about wanting it!

The issue I‘m seeing is the set they cancelled in 2020. We don‘t know the exact reason, but I feel that alone reduces our chances of getting a remake anytime soon :shrug_confused:

Posted (edited)
On 3/15/2025 at 4:56 AM, Agent Kallus said:

Dust is inevitable and can be mitigated, and a dusty set still looks better than an unopened box.

No, I agree. The Dark Falcon is just the kind of set at whom I’d hate to look if the dust situation got too bad. The bigger issue would be the lack of space or proper display solution—as in, hard bank to the right, in a tall display box.

On 3/18/2025 at 9:52 AM, Llewop said:

Slightly unrelated but just seen that Pokemon and Lego are collaborating now with a new theme. All these licensed themes Lego have now cant see them being cheap can only see them rising the prices again on all sets across the board. 

I believe the bigger concern is less and less sets (translated to less playsets, since we know the outcry when one precious 18+ line was dropped for a year) given that more shelf space for yet another IP has to be considered. Interested to see how that will shake out across the board when we get the annual number-crunches of sets for this year and next.

I do mourn the loss of original themes with you, though. LONG LIVE BLAC— sorry, I heart M-Tron.

22 hours ago, BacktoBricks said:

If you looked at such a poor representation of Boba as a toy from another block brand, you'd probably laugh and think of it as 'knock off' and inferior. So just being 'Lego' shouldn't mean it has the right to be widely inaccurate and yet Lego keeps doing it and getting away with sales because they are seen as the superior brand. It frankly shows a total lack of care for customers. And the irony is, theoretically if I did buy the set or just the minifigure, I would then have to go on BL and make an order for a different hairpiece and arms and earn Lego even more money through commission.

The difference between another block brand and TLG is that the latter has a better grasp of audience reception. I doubt that Boba minifig was their first draft. Do I think the end result is altogether successful? No. Do I call the end result lazy? No; misguided, but a different considerations were taken than the ones I might have.

For the torso, obviously they wanted to match the blue of the arms with that of Jango, which is true according to reference photos. The issue then became that, because Royal Blue/Lilac is unusable, the only option was sand blue, meaning that the entire design had to be brightened up as a result. As for the hair piece, that aspect for any minifig has always been a point of personal preference.

Again, I don’t agree with the end result, but I respect the effort. That’s something a knockoff can’t always boast.

 

Agreed on that last part, nonetheless. TLG owning a major source of their second market doesn’t sit right with me—although I can’t and won’t claim it’s illegal, since other options are still allowed to exist. What does annoy me is their push into control the narrative on social media through the LAN—but that’s a discussion for another place entirely.

 

Thank you @Classic_Spaceman for the reference photos of Jango so I didn’t have to waste a Google myself.

My only disappointments with Jango Fett actually stem from traditions started in 2021, namely the insistence on the dark pearl grey jetpack and Boba Fett’s arm prints that year. Boba’s armor detailing was clearly derivative of the template Din Djarin’s arm prints provided. While Boba’s prints looked nice with the Mythosaur skull pattern present, Jango’s blank silver plates call attention to that oversized detail.

Meanwhile, the refusal to recolour the jetpack to a slightly lighter shade of silver boggles my mind, since it would have seen numerous reproductions in so doing would have paid for itself anyway. Especially for Jango, whose silver neck armor is minimized by the abrupt change back to dark pearl grey. In the end, it’s cost us fans several figures now, and it’ll cost TLG more if they ever decide to correct that mistake down the line.

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Posted
5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The issue I‘m seeing is the set they cancelled in 2020. We don‘t know the exact reason, but I feel that alone reduces our chances of getting a remake anytime soon :shrug_confused:

Hm, interesting, I had either forgotten about that or never knew about it.  It's odd, because looking at the 2020 lineup, it wouldn't really have conflicted with any of the sets that we did get.  It was a very ship heavy 2HY, but besides Anakin's fighter and Luke's Landspeeder, most everything else was like $70+.

The positive side is that they have released cancelled sets before, at least in the case of the Yavin IV temple.

On the other, OTHER hand, they've never done anything with those Geonosis arena sketch models that we've seen, so maybe they just dislike AOTC :laugh:

 

Posted
26 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said:

Hm, interesting, I had either forgotten about that or never knew about it.  

I think this information comes from the Force of Creativity book, as it shows a sketch they did of a modernized Zam Wesell. I suppose they told about the cancelled set there for the first time, but I can't confirm as I don't own the book yet. But with the recent trend of them doing Episode 2 sets gradually over the years (UCS Gunship, Clone command post, Obi-Wan's starfighter, UCS & playscale Slave 1), hopefully there is a good chance of them making more and more sets that could use a remake, such as this one!

Posted
2 hours ago, Swordy said:

The difference between another block brand and TLG is that the latter has a better grasp of audience reception. I doubt that Boba minifig was their first draft. Do I think the end result is altogether successful? No. Do I call the end result lazy? No; misguided, but a different considerations were taken than the ones I might have.

For the torso, obviously they wanted to match the blue of the arms with that of Jango, which is true according to reference photos. The issue then became that, because Royal Blue/Lilac is unusable, the only option was sand blue, meaning that the entire design had to be brightened up as a result. As for the hair piece, that aspect for any minifig has always been a point of personal preference.

Again, I don’t agree with the end result, but I respect the effort. That’s something a knockoff can’t always boast.

Agreed on that last part, nonetheless. TLG owning a major source of their second market doesn’t sit right with me—although I can’t and won’t claim it’s illegal, since other options are still allowed to exist. What does annoy me is their push into control the narrative on social media through the LAN—but that’s a discussion for another place entirely.

I hear what you're saying about the arms colour matching to Jango. I don't agree personally and think it just highlights Jango's colour inaccuracies too if anything and I would have gone with a darker colour rather than matching the arms to Jango's body colour as I think that would have looked less jarring overall if we're going to have to make a compromise, but that's my subjective opinion and I respect your point. 

That being said, I think the majority of people are looking at the hair and wondering why on earth they chose it over several other options. I really don't think it can be said that they have a good grasp of audience reception there. Unless they know it will be disliked and simply don't care. Either way, it doesn't come off well. The new face expressions too are a downgrade and don't match well with the source material. Lego seems to think youngsters either have sideways smirks or sulky grimaces these days and all the younger characters are turning into, dare I say it, clones of each other. There seems to have been a distinct lack of effort in giving his character a unique expression, but you could I suppose write the expressions off as a design choice. 

However, I don't think you can really call the lack of dual molded legs anything but lazy or greedy. They can produce dual molded short legs so either they A) didn't want to spend the budget on them or B) they might not have the factory space to produce them. I can't see any other reason not to make the figure more accurate. It's not like the waistcape or legs or skirt argument when it comes to figures sitting down. And if it's A then that speaks for itself, but if it's B then when they are continually acquiring more licenses and making more sets, if that comes at the price of them cutting corners on design, then they can hardly say only the best is good enough. It's a simple case of quantity over quality then. 

Overall, with this figure, and I think the general consensus from comments I'm reading, is there is a lack of quality and effort with this minifigure. 

I will certainly be interesting to see how the LAN members react to the figure that's for sure. :wink:

 

Posted
7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The issue I‘m seeing is the set they cancelled in 2020. We don‘t know the exact reason, but I feel that alone reduces our chances of getting a remake anytime soon :shrug_confused:

They cancelled the UT-AT years ago and look what we are getting now. I would be curious to know why it was cancelled, I also read somewhere they cancelled a yoda vs Dooku set around that time as well but I can’t remember where I read that

Posted
4 hours ago, FullBrickDev said:

I think this information comes from the Force of Creativity book, as it shows a sketch they did of a modernized Zam Wesell. I suppose they told about the cancelled set there for the first time, but I can't confirm as I don't own the book yet. But with the recent trend of them doing Episode 2 sets gradually over the years (UCS Gunship, Clone command post, Obi-Wan's starfighter, UCS & playscale Slave 1), hopefully there is a good chance of them making more and more sets that could use a remake, such as this one!

I also found this article that seems to line up with the time frame.

https://www.brickfanatics.com/updated-lego-star-wars-zam-wesells-speeder-missed-the-cut/

Posted

Non-render pictures of the rangefinder are out. 

Shaping of it is good but I don't like the colour. Hopefully it quickly gets re-released in a bunch of different ones.

Posted

I really like that, certainly an improvement on the old piece. Was worried it would be a bit clunky but it’s turned out quite well.

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On 3/20/2025 at 9:12 AM, Llewop said:

They cancelled the UT-AT years ago and look what we are getting now. I would be curious to know why it was cancelled, I also read somewhere they cancelled a yoda vs Dooku set around that time as well but I can’t remember where I read that

That's a good point, but I do think we have to consider the length of time between the cancellation of the original UT-AT and the new one we're getting now. The original one was planned to release something like ten years ago, whereas we're only five years out from the remade Bounty Hunter Pursuit. Not saying it's impossible by any means, but if they were willing to cancel it five years ago, I'm not sure why they'd want to make it now when there are even fewer playsets on shelves to begin with. 

Edit: Forgot to say this but also in the case of the UT-AT, it's very obvious what changed in the market to make Lego release one, that of course being clone mania. Afaik Episode II hasn't really had any kind of surge in popularity like that.

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Posted (edited)

Only a couple more months until we get news on 2026 sets.

 

I need to know whether the nightmare will be over as of 2026… or if this is just the beginning.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

So is the UT-AT 100% happening ? I hope so

There is nothing whatsoever in any leaks so far to say it isn’t happening. The only doubts I’m aware of was a case of Eurobricks Chinese whispers where someone was speculating/wishlisting and two pages later people weren’t sure it was happening. Obviously we were here last year hearing rumours of a play scale Death Star only to end up with an ISD so we can never ever rule anything out. But it think it’s coming just don’t know exactly what figures yet. We will probably start to get more details over the next month or so about the August sets definitely too early for pictures.

Posted
22 minutes ago, Llewop said:

We will probably start to get more details over the next month or so about the August sets definitely too early for pictures.

Let’s see if the leakers try and go for the April 1st hat trick.

Posted
52 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Let’s see if the leakers try and go for the April 1st hat trick.

Well I’m fairly certain last few years we found out set names and numbers on April 1st because we all thought it was an April fools I think however we know already more info about this summers set than we did about last years summer sets at this point of the year. 

we’ve still got all of mays and Junes set pictures to come soon and details of the May 4th gwp

Posted
On 3/20/2025 at 1:49 PM, BacktoBricks said:

1. That being said, I think the majority of people are looking at the hair and wondering why on earth they chose it over several other options. 

2. However, I don't think you can really call the lack of dual molded legs anything but lazy or greedy.

1. Me too, though it crossed my mind that a simple answer might be availability in production. Even fairly common pieces might not be in production every year, even if the mold still existed? Just a guess, but I know this sometimes explains weird design choices, as it was mentioned by a designer in some interview years ago that they share the same problems as kids when building: they have to make do with what is available, unlike us adults who can in principle just order whatever stuff we possibly need from Bricklink.

2. So true. So so so true. And not just Boba, but recently also Dedra and Gamorrean guard to begin with. And it is not like they could not see the effort to bring in the dual-molded legs in Star Wars, as they certainly found the energy to cover the exhaust port of Princess Leia with pants, even if ironically in that particular case it was not even so accurate.

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6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Only a couple more months until we get news on 2026 sets.

I need to know whether the nightmare will be over as of 2026… or if this is just the beginning.

Same here. I've already written off the august wave as "maybe i get the 327th pack if it hits $25 or less". Firestar's probably going to come out of this year with more of my money than lego, and I bought, like, one minfigure and some heads.

Edit: I forgot about lego soundwave. Lego star wars comes out of this year with less of my money than Firestar, which still isn't something I ever thought would happen.

8 hours ago, Meaf said:

That's a good point, but I do think we have to consider the length of time between the cancellation of the original UT-AT and the new one we're getting now. The original one was planned to release something like ten years ago, whereas we're only five years out from the remade Bounty Hunter Pursuit. Not saying it's impossible by any means, but if they were willing to cancel it five years ago, I'm not sure why they'd want to make it now when there are even fewer playsets on shelves to begin with. 

Edit: Forgot to say this but also in the case of the UT-AT, it's very obvious what changed in the market to make Lego release one, that of course being clone mania. Afaik Episode II hasn't really had any kind of surge in popularity like that.

15 years minimum (Assuming the set was meant to release the same year as the dictionary), which bolsters your point even more.

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

So is the UT-AT 100% happening ? I hope so

Yeah I'm pretty sure the "fighter tank" rumor is gonna end up being something like lego naming the set fighter tank because the only 10 people who know what the UT-AT is called read it in the visual dictionary back in 2009 or so.

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Let’s see if the leakers try and go for the April 1st hat trick.

Nothing will ever top last year's "We're getting Jedi Bob's Starfighter and an eeeeevil millenium falcon" leak, but can you imagine if the first we heard of the august wave was on april fools' day? Somebody asking Minecraft Goat or somebody what the summer wave is and they respond "Yeah it's all clones lmao" and dump the list. I 100% would not have believed it even with last year's leak being true.

43 minutes ago, Samppu said:

1. Me too, though it crossed my mind that a simple answer might be availability in production. Even fairly common pieces might not be in production every year, even if the mold still existed? Just a guess, but I know this sometimes explains weird design choices, as it was mentioned by a designer in some interview years ago that they share the same problems as kids when building: they have to make do with what is available, unlike us adults who can in principle just order whatever stuff we possibly need from Bricklink.

2. So true. So so so true. And not just Boba, but recently also Dedra and Gamorrean guard to begin with. And it is not like they could not see the effort to bring in the dual-molded legs in Star Wars, as they certainly found the energy to cover the exhaust port of Princess Leia with pants, even if ironically in that particular case it was not even so accurate.

What's weird to me is dark red hips would have been enough there, and lego makes swimsuit figures without dual molded legs fairly frequently. It is really odd dual-molding priority, feels like they were trying to avoid any possible backlash

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