LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Darth_Bane13]

20 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

At a certain point you need to evolve the design. I think we objectively have to agree on that- obviously they can't stick with the same character design for eternity. The difference would be at what point you need an update, and I think 26 years (or 18 if you want to count the addition of the straight arm variant) is enough for B1s, especially with the lack of separable legs. I'd submit that you don't need to replace every B1 in your collection with one of the new ones just because a new variant is out. Having options isn't inherently bad.

The problem is split legs wouldn't work with the current torso,  the new B1 would probably end up looking a lot different from the old one. At this point I think it's just too late to change it, it's an absolute iconic staple of LSW. I think it's grandfathered in like the Minifigure is. I think it's like the rebel pilot helmets in that even though it's not the most accurate, it has a very LEGO feel to it, fans will be angry if it's changed after so long. Also B1 can't be improved since you cannot improve that which is perfection.

[ForgedInLego]

3 hours ago, Llewop said:

Re the B1s I’m fed up with them appearing in every set every year in anything to do with prequel or clone wars. Whilst they may or may not need a redesign what they do need is to maybe make some alternate droids from that era. 

Waiter! Waiter! More B1s please!

I have no less than 48 plain B1 battle droids and I still might buy out whatever Bricklink store I'm buying from if they're below $2

[Mandalorianknight]

5 hours ago, Rwbricks said:

CERVEZA CRISTAL!

I’d be very interested in seeing just how the design of the B1 would change, as I’m so used to the classic version. I have no insider knowledge, but I wonder if an updated B1 would help the buildable one to sell better. 

Regarding the Stormtroopers, while I do like the old helmet a bit better than the current one, I still like the current one. The baffling part to me is that we got a new Stormtrooper helmet mold for the Mimban Stormtrooper from Solo, and then we never saw that mold again. 

Canonize Cervaza Cristal. Maybe make it so that "Cerveza Crystals" are a resource that's melted into a mild intoxicant beverage.

I think it would definitely add something to it. I don't think it would make it a bestseller, but I'm sure it could help knock some people on the fence onto the "buy" side if it had a new B1 rather than the cheapest SW minifigure of all time.

IIRC the mimban one has mimban-specific molded detailing, not just the print.

4 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

Regarding an updated B1 mould, personally I find it a flimsy excuse that just because people have amassed copious amounts of the existing mould for army building that it should somehow prevent the introduction of any improvements to the figure. But then again, I also have no issue with battle packs including named characters if it means they’re the only way to get them (again, Enoch should’ve been in this June’s battle pack, because where else are they going to release him now?).

I'm generally not a named minifigures in battle packs guy but I have to agree Enoch should have taken the spot of one of the death troopers. He's a glaring omission from the Ahsoka sets.

3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

But on the topic of B1s if they were to update them it'd say go in the opposite direction of @Mandalorianknight's separate leg idea and change the leg joint into something stronger, say a click hinge over a clip. It's more s B2 problem than a B1 one but battledroids in general have some of the weakest parts Lego makes. 

They have plenty of two-leg characters with strong enough joints- Skeletons, the old Nexo Bots, etc. I think they could both strengthen the joint and separate them. 

Edited March 12 by Mandalorianknight

[wesker]

13 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm generally not a named minifigures in battle packs guy but I have to agree Enoch should have taken the spot of one of the death troopers. He's a glaring omission from the Ahsoka sets.

I'd argue the Great Mothers are an even bigger glaring omission from Ahsoka than Enoch is. They're the whole reason why Thrawn has a zombie army in the first place.

We really need one more Ahsoka set that can cover all four of these characters.

[JohnTPT17]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

They have plenty of two-leg characters with strong enough joints- Skeletons, the old Nexo Bots, etc. I think they could both strengthen the joint and separate them. 

All of those examples are pretty wide, though. B1s are quite skinny. Yeah, you could have separate legs for them like those examples, but then you need two separate clips, and then they become as wide as, if not wider than, a regular minifigure around the waist. 

[TeddytheSpoon]

3 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

All of those examples are pretty wide, though. B1s are quite skinny. Yeah, you could have separate legs for them like those examples, but then you need two separate clips, and then they become as wide as, if not wider than, a regular minifigure around the waist. 

I was going to make this argument, but the I remembered that Clone Army Customs have their own two-legged battle droid, and honestly it doesn't look wide at all. The torso isn't perfect (I'd probably stick with something more similar to the current one), but it's still a sound design IMO.

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Canonize Cervaza Cristal. Maybe make it so that "Cerveza Crystals" are a resource that's melted into a mild intoxicant beverage.

I never quite got the Cerveza Cristal thing but this is a very funny idea nonetheless.

[Agent Kallus]

42 minutes ago, TeddytheSpoon said:

I never quite got the Cerveza Cristal thing but this is a very funny idea nonetheless.

It's because when airing the OG trilogy on TV in Chile they stitched the adverts into the film rather than having ad breaks. So one of them was when Obi-wan gets Anakin's light saber out to give to Luke they stitched in a hand reaching a bottle of Cerveza Cristal out of an icebox and then play the beer's theme tune.

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

They have plenty of two-leg characters with strong enough joints- Skeletons, the old Nexo Bots, etc. I think they could both strengthen the joint and separate them. 

Fair enough, my mind went straight to some customs I've seen were they literally spilt the current leg joint in half, making a fragile joint even more so. Nevertheless I'd personally prioritise strengthening the joint, but both could work.

[AD_Bricks]

46 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

It's because when airing the OG trilogy on TV in Chile they stitched the adverts into the film rather than having ad breaks. So one of them was when Obi-wan gets Anakin's light saber out to give to Luke they stitched in a hand reaching a bottle of Cerveza Cristal out of an icebox and then play the beer's theme tune.

THIS IS INSANE HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT

[Mandalorianknight]

8 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

All of those examples are pretty wide, though. B1s are quite skinny. Yeah, you could have separate legs for them like those examples, but then you need two separate clips, and then they become as wide as, if not wider than, a regular minifigure around the waist. 

As @TeddytheSpoon says, Clone Army Customs have a good template showing how the legs can be separated while keeping the same general proportions and not making it as wide as a minifig. (Personally their torso is a bit too detailed for my tastes, but the split leg solution works great on them IMO.)

3 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Fair enough, my mind went straight to some customs I've seen were they literally spilt the current leg joint in half, making a fragile joint even more so. Nevertheless I'd personally prioritise strengthening the joint, but both could work.

 

I've seen those too and they definitely do not work.

I agree the joint should be stronger, I just think if they do make a change might as well fix both at the same time.

3 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

THIS IS INSANE HOW HAVE I NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT

You gotta find a compilation of all of them, it was like every 15 minutes or something. 

[JohnTPT17]

57 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As @TeddytheSpoon says, Clone Army Customs have a good template showing how the legs can be separated while keeping the same general proportions and not making it as wide as a minifig. (Personally their torso is a bit too detailed for my tastes, but the split leg solution works great on them IMO.)

Just looked them up - that does actually look pretty neat. 

[CloneCommando99]

Who do you think will be in the AC this year?

My personal yet realistic hopes are: Thrawn, Maul, Stormtrooper, Qui Gon, Christmas Clone (fitting conclusion to the year) and Sabine.

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Who do you think will be in the AC this year?

Aldar Beedo

[ForgedInLego]

8 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Aldar Beedo

Well, all the molds are still in production, we just need to find another theme to steal a head from! 

[Agent Kallus]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Who do you think will be in the AC this year?

My personal yet realistic hopes are: Thrawn, Maul, Stormtrooper, Qui Gon, Christmas Clone (fitting conclusion to the year) and Sabine.

My guess is that they'll change it up and have a character everyday, cut the price in half and every minifig will be new and exclusive.

Day 1: Qimir/The Stranger, Day 2: Mara Jade, Day 3: Yaddle, Day 4: Agent Kallus remake with the season 2/3 rank plaque, Day 5: Avar Kriss, Day 6: Darth Revan remake, Day 6: Sol, Day 7: Kit Fisto remake, Day 8: Vuffi Ra, Day 9: Rukh, Day 10: Marchion Ro, Day 11: Babu Frik, Day 12: Darth Bane, Day 13: Santa Rex, Day 16: Mother Talzin, Day 17: Ursa Wren, Day 18: Bell Zetifar, Day 19: Scorch, Day 20: Ember, Day 21: Marda Ro, Day 22: Talon Karrde, Day 23: Ransolm Casterfo, Day 24: Vernestra Rwoh (teen)

99.95689988% chance I'm wrong about this.

In all seriousness I think a 'Yuletide legion' clone trooper is both likely and fun.

Edited March 13 by Agent Kallus

[Mandalorianknight]

27 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

My guess is that they'll change it up and have a character everyday, cut the price in half and every minifig will be new and exclusive.

Day 1: Qimir/The Stranger, Day 2: Mara Jade, Day 3: Yaddle, Day 4: Agent Kallus remake with the season 2/3 rank plaque, Day 5: Avar Kriss, Day 6: Darth Revan remake, Day 6: Sol, Day 7: Kit Fisto remake, Day 8: Vuffi Ra, Day 9: Rukh, Day 10: Marchion Ro, Day 11: Babu Frik, Day 12: Darth Bane, Day 13: Santa Rex, Day 16: Mother Talzin, Day 17: Ursa Wren, Day 18: Bell Zetifar, Day 19: Scorch, Day 20: Ember, Day 21: Marda Ro, Day 22: Talon Karrde, Day 23: Ransolm Casterfo, Day 24: Vernestra Rwoh (teen)

99.95689988% chance I'm wrong about this.

In all seriousness I think a 'Yuletide legion' clone trooper is both likely and fun.

You did a great job with that list, even I don't know about a quarter of them.

Actually, nevermind, 1/24 not enough Mara Jades.

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Who do you think will be in the AC this year?

My personal yet realistic hopes are: Thrawn, Maul, Stormtrooper, Qui Gon, Christmas Clone (fitting conclusion to the year) and Sabine.

Your list might be a bit hopeful with Thrawn but in general I think feels pretty accurate.

Ironically the two on the list I'm hoping most for are the Christmas Clone (Partially because I really do think it would be fun and partially because it would be good to see lego cement this is more of a "year of the clones" thing and not just... the future of the theme) and the Stormtrooper (just because I don't want to break that imperial trooper streak)

I'm gonna guess that realistically though it'll be:

Anakin Skywalker (Christmas sweater), Young Ahsoka (Christmas Sweater), 327th clone trooper, Cassian Andor, The Mandalorian, B1 battle droid.

[Omand]

2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Who do you think will be in the AC this year?

My personal yet realistic hopes are: Thrawn, Maul, Stormtrooper, Qui Gon, Christmas Clone (fitting conclusion to the year) and Sabine.

Good question.

I believe you are being overly optimistic for the calendar.  Lego has a long history of pulling most of the mini-figs from in production sets, but not usually from what they consider flagship sets.  Based upon the sets that are on shelves at the moment (and the ones we know about from leaks), I am going to go with the following:

• B-1 Battledroid (the B-2 was in 2024, so back to B-1 for 2025)
• Stormtrooper (there is usually one regular trooper, and there was a clone trooper in 2024, so back to the Empire we go; plus if the Death Star is a big as we are being led to believe, then lots of these guys in production)
• R5-D4 (The 4+ Mando set appears to be a shelf-warmer, so maybe they have a bunch of these guys they need to blow out)
• One of: Christmas Thrawn or Christmas Maul.  My hunch is Thrawn since Maul has been in the AC before.
• One of: Sabine or Ezra in holiday attire.  Not 100% sure on these, they might be considered too niche.
• One of: Mandalorian Nite Owl, Imperial Commando or Rebel Fleet Trooper to fill the remaining mini-fig slot.

Outside Chances:

• One of the Rebuild the Galaxy minifigs
• Qui Gonn (Just have the gut feeling they want to drive sales of the set he is currently in)
• Young Anakin (ditto to the above)
• One of the Skeleton Crew minifigs (suspect not, as they likely want to push the set)

With all that said, Lego works in mysterious ways.  We will have to wait and see.

Cheers :)

[CloneCommando99]

On 3/13/2025 at 12:40 AM, Agent Kallus said:

My guess is that they'll change it up and have a character everyday, cut the price in half and every minifig will be new and exclusive.

Day 1: Qimir/The Stranger, Day 2: Mara Jade, Day 3: Yaddle, Day 4: Agent Kallus remake with the season 2/3 rank plaque, Day 5: Avar Kriss, Day 6: Darth Revan remake, Day 6: Sol, Day 7: Kit Fisto remake, Day 8: Vuffi Ra, Day 9: Rukh, Day 10: Marchion Ro, Day 11: Babu Frik, Day 12: Darth Bane, Day 13: Santa Rex, Day 16: Mother Talzin, Day 17: Ursa Wren, Day 18: Bell Zetifar, Day 19: Scorch, Day 20: Ember, Day 21: Marda Ro, Day 22: Talon Karrde, Day 23: Ransolm Casterfo, Day 24: Vernestra Rwoh (teen)

99.95689988% chance I'm wrong about this.

In all seriousness I think a 'Yuletide legion' clone trooper is both likely and fun.

Lol. Made me chuckle there.

On 3/13/2025 at 1:16 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

Your list might be a bit hopeful with Thrawn but in general I think feels pretty accurate.

Good point. I just want a desirable way to get Thrawn. I have no interest in buying Peridia.

I yearn for a Tie Defender.

On 3/13/2025 at 1:37 AM, Omand said:

 

• B-1 Battledroid (the B-2 was in 2024, so back to B-1 for 2025)
• Stormtrooper (there is usually one regular trooper, and there was a clone trooper in 2024, so back to the Empire we go; plus if the Death Star is a big as we are being led to believe, then lots of these guys in production)
• R5-D4 (The 4+ Mando set appears to be a shelf-warmer, so maybe they have a bunch of these guys they need to blow out)
• One of: Christmas Thrawn or Christmas Maul.  My hunch is Thrawn since Maul has been in the AC before.
• One of: Sabine or Ezra in holiday attire.  Not 100% sure on these, they might be considered too niche.
• One of: Mandalorian Nite Owl, Imperial Commando or Rebel Fleet Trooper to fill the remaining mini-fig slot.

That’s actually not a bad prediction.

[Swordy]

On 3/7/2025 at 6:15 PM, ZeldaTheSwordsman said:

First, you're dead wrong about these being strictly CW. …

Second, the Original Trilogy more than any other part of Star Wars can handle a break from constant attention. Because it's so iconic (for better or for worse), they can easily come back to it whenever they want as if they never left. Whereas stuff like the clones, if they drop the momentum it's harder to get back to it.

You’re right in the flaws of my absolute statement. (You did forget the V-19, but then again I forgot Jango’s S1–which further proves the repetitive and niche nature of this summer.)

Let me rephrase, then: nearly all of these summer sets are strictly clone-based LEGO SW sets, not representative of RotS, the anniversary of which you have argued is the reason for these sets. The RotS I remember watching had a lot more Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Palpatine than clones, Cody notwithstanding. (Before anyone brings them up, no, dioramas are not the only solution to this problem. A $40 playset of Obi-Wan vs Grievous chase or a $70 Palpatine’s Office with Mace, Anakin, Palps—if a $100 solution was out the window—would go a long way to represent more than just Father Jango Fett and his many clones.)

As to your second point, I believe we have starkly different approaches on representing the most iconic part of SW. I argue that it deserves constant presence on shelves because it is so iconic, and likely the thing most kids (since we’re talking playsets, not 18+) will recognize from the film their dad showed them.

Furthermore, you yourself just made my point: they are harder to argue for out of this context of concentration because these random clone legions aren’t as recognizable. John Q. Public and those like him won’t be as likely to pick up a set, so it makes even less sense why TLG would choose this route in the first place. In theory, a themed wave sounds terrific, but when that theme appeals only to the niche fandom such as you and me, I believe it will fail.

On 3/7/2025 at 6:15 PM, ZeldaTheSwordsman said:

I think you're mistaking a lack of fanfare for a lack of acknowledgement. Just because LEGO doesn't call an anniversary out doesn't mean it's not on their minds.

1. It's true that ESB's 20th anniversary didn't get any acknowledgement as such, but that's because it fell during Lego Star Wars' second-ever year. The range was too new and too universal in scope to be paying special attention to any anniversary (and FWIW we did at least get the Slave I that year, as well as the first Lego AT-AT by way of the Dark Side Developer Kit). RotJ's 20th was likewise early in the range's lifespan, but I'd say it got at least a little acknowledgement in the form of the Jabba's Palace, Jabba's Message, and Jabba's Prize sets.

2. There may not have been fanfare for it, but they clearly seem to have been celebrating ESB's 25th anniversary early (because the actual anniversary overlapped with the upcoming Episode III) over the course of 2003 and 2004. Those years were very ESB-heavy, with ESB getting multiple big sets: Cloud City, the first System AT-AT, the second (and worst, he said from experience) version of the Millennium Falcon, the first UCS Snowspeeder, Luke's X-Wing and Yoda's Hut ($50 counts as a big set by the standards of the day)...

3. Speaking of overlap, you know what LSW's anniversaries overlap with? The Phantom Menace. You know what LSW have made sure to give love to on both the 20th and 25th anniversaries? The Phantom Menace. Hell, TPM even got some love for its fifteenth anniversary, by way of a big MTT set with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in the otherwise RotS-centric 2014 line.

No, I believe you’re overthinking this matter. I agree that anniversaries may be on the designers’ minds, but certainly not on the higher ups at TLG. That the UCS AT-AT and UCS Sail Barge released one year too late from their respective films’ 40th anniversaries tells me that TLG has never cared—only with the UCS Falcon for the 40th anniversary of SW itself did they manage a timely release.

1. Interesting to point out, but my point still stands with TPM and AotC. You say acknowledgement, I say coincidence.

2. So when they were trying to cover the breath of the OT early on, you call that a celebration? Maybe, but of the entire saga up until that point. (That also contradicts your previous point on RotJ’s 20th, since it, yes, got a wave, but in the same year as Cloud City. There is no correlation outside of being based on SW.) Legitimate question I have: where was the 25th bash for A New Hope?

3. Again, you are overthinking this. The AT-AT in 2020 got a logo slapped on the box, but it was also time for a remake of an iconic vehicle. The previous version released in… wha, 2014? Maybe, in the past, waves were just more varied, and that’s how TLG managed to grow into the juggernaut it is now?

On 3/7/2025 at 6:15 PM, ZeldaTheSwordsman said:

Really? I count at least three cases of uncovered ground: Ahsoka's Interceptor, the CIS MTT (all three previous Minifig-scale MTT sets are brown), and the UT-AT (which again, is strictly Episode III).

Within a system of interlocking plastic bricks in vast arrays of assorted colours, yes, I don’t count the recolours of a Jedi Interceptor and MTT, respectively, to be “uncovered ground”. (It goes without saying this logic doesn’t, doesn’t count toward minifigures. An all-white Vader counts as uncovered ground; even then I wouldn’t argue we need a Jedi Vader mech, much less throw into a set at random, and it took a combination of fanfavourties in the Dark Falcon to sell that set.)

On 3/7/2025 at 6:15 PM, ZeldaTheSwordsman said:

Thing is, the OT cast ARE readily available, whether on shelves or secondhand. And since (unlike the prequels and TCW) most have been done so many times that you're spoilt for choice, they're even reasonably-priced secondhand.

No, they are not readily available on shelves aside from Luke, who is piloting a made-up mech. OT Leia is missing, Han, Chewie, and Lando (who’s in disguise) are exclusive to an expensive $80 Desert Skiff, Artoo and Threepio are no where to be found under $100. I’m with you on the need for Prequel representation, but even Anakin and Ahsoka are hard to found at pocket-money levels these days.

Secondly, up until now I wasn’t talking about secondhand. General public maybe buys LSW from Amazon—which is a ripoff in almost every case, which only gives more credence to the perception of “LEGOs are too expensive”—and rarely as knowledge of BL or LEGO on eBay—and oh how overpriced those markets are! Yes, I believe that the LSW market as a whole is overpriced, especially compared to other themes.

Tell me, how does a figure in $20 set from only a couple years back exceed the value of that set only a year and a half after the set’s retirement? Why is the Anakin that doesn’t do anything more than previous versions so expensive? Compare that to S7 Ahsoka or Maul, two figures which have stayed relatively cheap. It seems to me that regardless of what TLG puts on shelves today, someone will double it’s price tomorrow. That’s how game works, I know, but it’s to the disadvantage of the average customer.

It is my belief that the same people who will overpay on the main protagonist from RotS are roughly the same people who are excited for the UT-AT and CIS MTT, fair? Wouldn’t that group then also being willing to overpay on a custom UT-AT or CIS MTT, and probably happier that it would be more accurate as a result? It’s to the disadvantage of those unwilling to overpay (I’m one of them), but that’s how the game works.

The fringe has always and always will drive up the aftermarket price on clone-related sets. You’re welcome to disagree, and I welcome the debate.

 

[Samppu]

Just for those wondering, how the Clone Army Customs battle droid looks like:



I personally consider this to be a major update to the existing B1s. There is nothing that wouldn't feel perfectly like Lego in here, even the backpack, as it can be attached to other minifigures as well with the neck bracket. Ok, the turning wrists might not pass as Lego, and I could live with the official remake having rigid arms, but otherwise, please Lego, do take inspiration from this.

I don't care about consistency, because soldiers never are uniform. Look at the battle gears in Ukraine, for example. Even in droids, one can think that there are different patches of droids, so in my personal Star Wars universe this type would be just a novel and improved batch of B1s.

Actually, I have done sort of similar changes to my droids already manually. It is not that difficult even, but I have some plans how I am going to reveal them as a part of a series of MOCs, so I'll save them for later. 

Edited March 14 by Samppu

[BrickBob Studpants]

I dunno, the walking pose of that custom B1 looks absolutely cursed to me  Personally, I don’t mind if they stick to the classic design. The custom’s legs don’t look very sturdy, and unless you place the droids on a baseplate or some other kind of terrain, you either have to pose them in a legs-together stance anyway, or in a walking stance like the one pictured, which looks like it would topple over if you as much as sneezed on the other end of the room

The droid figures are already nightmarishly flimsy, and the drawbacks outweigh the potential benefits by a wide margin in my book.

[Darth_Bane13]

9 hours ago, Swordy said:

No, they are not readily available on shelves aside from Luke, who is piloting a made-up mech. OT Leia is missing, Han, Chewie, and Lando (who’s in disguise) are exclusive to an expensive $80 Desert Skiff, Artoo and Threepio are no where to be found under $100. I’m with you on the need for Prequel representation, but even Anakin and Ahsoka are hard to found at pocket-money levels these days.

Secondly, up until now I wasn’t talking about secondhand. General public maybe buys LSW from Amazon—which is a ripoff in almost every case, which only gives more credence to the perception of “LEGOs are too expensive”—and rarely as knowledge of BL or LEGO on eBay—and oh how overpriced those markets are! Yes, I believe that the LSW market as a whole is overpriced, especially compared to other themes.

Tell me, how does a figure in $20 set from only a couple years back exceed the value of that set only a year and a half after the set’s retirement? Why is the Anakin that doesn’t do anything more than previous versions so expensive? Compare that to S7 Ahsoka or Maul, two figures which have stayed relatively cheap. It seems to me that regardless of what TLG puts on shelves today, someone will double it’s price tomorrow. That’s how game works, I know, but it’s to the disadvantage of the average customer.

 

I think people focus too much on minifigures. If all you care about is having the OT cast, go buy action figures. And if you really love the minifigures that much, then just make a brick link account and buy them all for $10. It's really not hard to find out how to buy figures on the secondary market, literally a quick google search. As long as Lego refuses to sell Star Wars minifigs directly it's just going to be hard to have all the characters you want available for cheap.

[icm]

Sure, but what if you want Lego figures? Action figures don't scale very well with Lego when you just want to play with Lego. And that's not the regular retail market anyway. Mom and Pop in the toy aisle aren't going to know to go to Bricklink to get secondhand Lego minifigures outside of the sets they came in.

[Swordy]

27 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I think people focus too much on minifigures. If all you care about is having the OT cast, go buy action figures. And if you really love the minifigures that much, then just make a brick link account and buy them all for $10. It's really not hard to find out how to buy figures on the secondary market, literally a quick google search. As long as Lego refuses to sell Star Wars minifigs directly it's just going to be hard to have all the characters you want available for cheap.

I’m not arguing from a collector’s mindset. The secondhand market seems so easy to us because we are so accustomed to it, but I can remember how daunting it seemed when I first began learning about it. Even then, it takes persistence and patience to keep things relatively affordable. (After all, it’s not just. $2 Luke, but $2 plus $5 shipping and tax.) LEGO is our passion, but we are a minority.

Try finding a not-in-an-ugly-disguise Lando for under $10. I’ll wait.

No, it is possible for TLG to keep main characters affordable (and without relying on mechs or polybags): microfighters, $20 duel sets, $30 playsets. What has happened, though, is that TLG downsized the MiFi line, and filled the $20 and $30 price points with armybuilders from almost exclusively one faction.

22 minutes ago, icm said:

Mom and Pop in the toy aisle aren't going to know to go to Bricklink to get secondhand Lego minifigures outside of the sets they came in.

Even when they do try getting certain characters, they resort to Amazon, where, at the moment, the cheapest Luke is $13 and Vader is $20!

[icm]

Also, the available supply on Bricklink is much smaller than we really think it is. If every mom or dad who wanted to get the OT cast for their kids went to Bricklink after not finding them in available retail sets in the toy aisle, the remaining supply on Bricklink would plummet and prices for the remaining supply would skyrocket. That's the inherent nature of the secondary market.

[Mandalorianknight]

13 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Good point. I just want a desirable way to get Thrawn. I have no interest in buying Peridia.

I yearn for a Tie Defender.

I was going to say "Because of Peridia he's not bad on BL right now", but he's twice the price in the UK he is in the US, I wouldn't buy any official figure for $25. (I have, unfortunately, spent that much on a pad-printed Invincible, and will do so again on his blue suit, but only because lego will never make him.) I personally love Peridia but I also loved the Ahsoka show a lot more than the average fan (And I'm not even like a huge fan of ahsoka the character or anything), the aesthetic of Peridia specifically, and I also love the diorama type sets.

I would also like to see a TIE defender sometime soon.

12 hours ago, Swordy said:

(It goes without saying this logic doesn’t, doesn’t count toward minifigures. An all-white Vader counts as uncovered ground; even then I wouldn’t argue we need a Jedi Vader mech, much less throw into a set at random, and it took a combination of fanfavourties in the Dark Falcon to sell that set.)

First of all, as I say pretty frequently, you've got a knack for explaining points I'm trying to say in a much more eloquent way, so thanks for writing all that because I certainly wouldn't have been able to get it across to that extent.

I just wanted to throw in on this part that even with darth jar jar and jedi vader and darth rey I still haven't seen the DF doing well ancedotally. I'm crossing my fingers I can grab it at 50% off, sell most of the figs, and have a pretty sweet parts pack for pennies on the dollar.

6 hours ago, Samppu said:

Just for those wondering, how the Clone Army Customs battle droid looks like:

I personally consider this to be a major update to the existing B1s. There is nothing that wouldn't feel perfectly like Lego in here, even the backpack, as it can be attached to other minifigures as well with the neck bracket. Ok, the turning wrists might not pass as Lego, and I could live with the official remake having rigid arms, but otherwise, please Lego, do take inspiration from this.

I don't care about consistency, because soldiers never are uniform. Look at the battle gears in Ukraine, for example. Even in droids, one can think that there are different patches of droids, so in my personal Star Wars universe this type would be just a novel and improved batch of B1s.

Actually, I have done sort of similar changes to my droids already manually. It is not that difficult even, but I have some plans how I am going to reveal them as a part of a series of MOCs, so I'll save them for later. 

Yeah exactly- it can clearly have split legs at lego sturdiness in a lego style. I don't think we'd see anything like the wrist swivels or custom-molded backpack, but I do think that the CAC figure shows lego can clearly pull off split legs if they ever get around to the mold.

5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

unless you place the droids on a baseplate or some other kind of terrain, you either have to pose them in a legs-together stance anyway, or in a walking stance like the one pictured, which looks like it would topple over if you as much as sneezed on the other end of the room

I mean to be fair the exact same thing is true with normal minifigures.

2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I think people focus too much on minifigures. If all you care about is having the OT cast, go buy action figures. And if you really love the minifigures that much, then just make a brick link account and buy them all for $10. It's really not hard to find out how to buy figures on the secondary market, literally a quick google search. As long as Lego refuses to sell Star Wars minifigs directly it's just going to be hard to have all the characters you want available for cheap.

As for that first part you could say the exact same thing about literally any other star wars characters, let's not pretend it would be exclusive to the main OT cast. I think you're also ignoring the main thrust of Swordy's point which was that the average person (adult or child) doesn't know about or use bricklink much. Nobody's saying it's impossible for me or you to go get the OT main cast in one of their standard outfits at a good price (Actually, if you count Lando as part of the main cast, he is), but for a child who can't go on bricklink or an adult who doesn't have an account, it's a different story. Bricklink isn't the most well-known thing. And even some of the people I know who are big into lego and know about bricklink through me won't make accounts because they don't like buying off the secondary market for that stuff.

1 hour ago, icm said:

Also, the available supply on Bricklink is much smaller than we really think it is. If every mom or dad who wanted to get the OT cast for their kids went to Bricklink after not finding them in available retail sets in the toy aisle, the remaining supply on Bricklink would plummet and prices for the remaining supply would skyrocket. That's the inherent nature of the secondary market.

Exactly. The reason the more niche and fan-favorite characters are so expensive is because a lot of the people deep enough into lego star wars to be on bricklink want them, whereas most people that deep into lego star wars already have the main casts.

Edited March 14 by Mandalorianknight