CloneCommando99 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 8 hours ago, AD_Bricks said: I thought it was the joker because of the red around the mouth ignore me, I hardly ever watch superhero movies Don’t worry you’re good. It’s both. To mirror the current state of the DC (and arguably SW) theme. 5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Yeah, I would really enjoy that. I would like a UCS AT-ST too, but that diorama would be like a top 10 set. I honestly thought that the 2019 promo was teasing something like this. 6 years later and still nothing. Quote
Tariq j Posted February 1 Posted February 1 10 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: It’s odd, Marvel and Harry Potter also have their fair share of buildables, but Star Wars has taken the volume of these sets in an extreme direction this year. I hope it doesn’t set a precedent for what the future of this theme entails. Yes, I think those themes have struck a good balance between "regular" (for lack of a better term) sets and buildables/figures/microscale etc. sets. 15 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Yeah. Come to think of it. An 18+ Battle of Endor in the same style as Rivendell would actually probably work really well. Wouldn’t have to be a diorama. Bunker build at one end of the strip, a few trees (with bridge and huts) and some log traps at the other end. Include 10-15 figures and it’d be excellent. That would be a really good idea. It would essentially be combining the Ewok Village and the Battle of Endor set into one. Throw in some speeder bikes, an AT-ST etc. I think It's been 10 years since we've seen an Endor Han too. Quote
starwarslotrluvva Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/29/2025 at 6:15 PM, BrickBob Studpants said: The only potentially interesting thing about the Slave I playset is gonna be the Kaminoan. If it‘s Lama Su, that is. Given their weird choices this year, I wouldn‘t be surprised to see Taun We again, meaning you end up with two Taun Wes if you wanna recreate the chase scene Lama Su would be awesome! I think he would need a new head mold for his large collar and fin on top of his head. Quote
Graupensuppe Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/29/2025 at 11:15 PM, BrickBob Studpants said: The only potentially interesting thing about the Slave I playset is gonna be the Kaminoan. If it‘s Lama Su, that is. Given their weird choices this year, I wouldn‘t be surprised to see Taun We again, meaning you end up with two Taun Wes if you wanna recreate the chase scene Another possibility would be to re-use Taun We's head mold for one of the generic background Kaminoans who, like her, had no head crest or collar. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 1 Posted February 1 14 hours ago, Kaijumeister said: Exactly that. I hope one of the more observant LAN members deigns to ask the LEGO Star Wars team about this during the LEGO Fan Media Days at some point. Diversifying your product portfolio isn’t in itself a bad thing, but this really is excessive. It’s odd, Marvel and Harry Potter also have their fair share of buildables, but Star Wars has taken the volume of these sets in an extreme direction this year. I hope it doesn’t set a precedent for what the future of this theme entails. Unfortunately I don't have a ton of faith in that. A combination of the lego design team's.... interesting answers to questions alongside the fact that, while I like a number of the LAN guys, I do think there's an understandable hesitation to be too critical of the company supplying you with free sets to review. (And if that's the case I don't blame them- regardless of whether or not lego would actually pull a membership over it, I certainly wouldn't want to risk it). I think if it happened, the designers would give a nonsense response and the person who asked wouldn't want to push them on it. 2 hours ago, Tariq j said: Yes, I think those themes have struck a good balance between "regular" (for lack of a better term) sets and buildables/figures/microscale etc. sets. We gotta figure out a word for the regular sets. I've seen playset, which sort of works, but would count a lot of gimmicks- arguably the marvel buildable figures are playsets-, and system, which is the one I like to use, but technically all the 18+ sets are still system, so it's not necessarily accurate either. Quote
Agent Kallus Posted February 1 Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: We gotta figure out a word for the regular sets. I've seen playset, which sort of works, but would count a lot of gimmicks- arguably the marvel buildable figures are playsets-, and system, which is the one I like to use, but technically all the 18+ sets are still system, so it's not necessarily accurate either. Minifigure System? Quote
Llewop Posted February 1 Posted February 1 4 hours ago, Tariq j said: Yes, I think those themes have struck a good balance between "regular" (for lack of a better term) sets and buildables/figures/microscale etc. sets. I’d say certainly for Harry Potter vast majority of sets are location sets, which is why they redo the castle every few years because most of the films are based there. There’s only realistically a handful of vehicles they could do as a set. I think it is quite easy for that theme to have the basics while also doing some of the more adult bigger sets. I’ve said a few times that they have very good coverage of the films in LEGO format. SW is massive 11 films, multiple TV shows, multiple games and animated series all part of its canon it’s impossible to get the right balance even before the shift to adult sets It’s harder for SW but without sounding like an entitled gatekeeper I think Covid is the main reason to blame for the big shift to adults only sets. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 (edited) Pilot Luke is this year’s Brickheadz in May. Still waiting for a full figure confirmation of the Andor U-Wing Edited February 1 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Kit Figsto Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Pilot Luke is this year’s Brickheadz in May. I know that some people are going to be annoyed with that choice, but I'm surprised that we haven't had either that or Tattooine Luke made yet. In fact, the only Luke Brickheadz variations we've gotten are ROTJ and Dagobah, both in multi-packs. The choices for Brickheadz characters has been rather random, looking back. The sequels got good coverage because the line came out when we were getting full movie waves, and then most of the OT main characters have gotten the Brickheadz treatment, but it's been a rather random assortment when it comes to the OT/PT. Edited February 2 by Kit Figsto Quote
Samppu Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 5 hours ago, Llewop said: It’s harder for SW but without sounding like an entitled gatekeeper I think Covid is the main reason to blame for the big shift to adults only sets. Earlier I head that covid was the main reason for the Lego Company to keep thriving at all. I did not check these numbers, but a couple of years ago I saw a stat that 2015 - 2% of the revenue came from the adult market, the rest 98% from the kids. 2021 (or so) - even as many as 20% of the revenue came from the adults. The kids are only addicted to TikTok and smartphone nowadays, it is the adult market, which has become a considerable motor for the growth, I have understood. Covid was, as you implied, fuel to the fire in catching more adults to the hobby. Edited February 2 by Samppu Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 19 minutes ago, Samppu said: Earlier I head that covid was the main reason for the Lego Company to keep thriving at all. I did not check these numbers, but a couple of years ago I saw a stat that 2015 - 2% of the revenue came from the adult market, the rest 98% from the kids. 2021 (or so) - even as many as 20% of the revenue came from the adults. The kids are only addicted to TikTok and smartphone nowadays, it is the adult market, which has become a considerable motor for the growth, I have understood. Covid was, as you implied, fuel to the fire in catching more adults to the hobby. Kind of sad that kids don't play with Lego as much anymore, TikTok and smartphones are a terrible substitute. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 6 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: Kind of sad that kids don't play with Lego as much anymore, TikTok and smartphones are a terrible substitute. I actually kinda want it to be banned here in the UK, to see if it actually benefits our kids I mean. I’m sure it would since doomscrolling is ruining attention spans. Also it’d be interesting to see if it works since someone across the pond ended the ban before it even lasted a day and had an effect. Also, I beg to differ. Until a year and an half ago I used to be a scout leader. And the kids there were very into Lego. In fact quite a lot of them were hyped for the 2022 AT TE. Not so much for the 2023 Coruscant Guard gunship and 327th BP. I’m currently a cadet instructor, and whilst it is an older demographic (mid teenagers), the boys seem to still be into the occasional Lego set, even play-sets. The girls seem to like collecting the botanical collection from time to time. 6 hours ago, Samppu said: The kids are only addicted to TikTok and smartphone nowadays, it is the adult market, which has become a considerable motor for the growth, I have understood. Covid was, as you implied, fuel to the fire in catching more adults to the hobby. Whilst it is a problem, I think it comes down to the responsibility of the parents, not the kids. Parents can always stop them wasting hours upon hours on TikTok and video games by simply setting screen time limits on their devices. Kids easily get addicted to screens. But yeah, covid definitely is the reason for the exponential increase in adult targeted sets. Edited February 2 by CloneCommando99 Quote
MaximillianRebo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 7 hours ago, Samppu said: Earlier I head that covid was the main reason for the Lego Company to keep thriving at all. I did not check these numbers, but a couple of years ago I saw a stat that 2015 - 2% of the revenue came from the adult market, the rest 98% from the kids. 2021 (or so) - even as many as 20% of the revenue came from the adults. The kids are only addicted to TikTok and smartphone nowadays, it is the adult market, which has become a considerable motor for the growth, I have understood. Covid was, as you implied, fuel to the fire in catching more adults to the hobby. Since it's only percentages, there's no way to know what the actual numbers are. Possibly the number of kids playing with Lego went up also, or even just stayed the same, but the numbers of adults in the hobby increased by a lot more. Quote
Llewop Posted February 2 Posted February 2 13 hours ago, Samppu said: Earlier I head that covid was the main reason for the Lego Company to keep thriving at all. I did not check these numbers, but a couple of years ago I saw a stat that 2015 - 2% of the revenue came from the adult market, the rest 98% from the kids. 2021 (or so) - even as many as 20% of the revenue came from the adults. The kids are only addicted to TikTok and smartphone nowadays, it is the adult market, which has become a considerable motor for the growth, I have understood. Covid was, as you implied, fuel to the fire in catching more adults to the hobby. Also Lego used to be cheapish. Battle packs being £10 was pocket money. Then you had several sets that were 20-40 pound which again was within reason. Now cheapest sets are £40 to start with parents ain’t got the money to spend loads it’s either this or that whereas before there was more room to buy more things. The shift to adults means they can charge more because we have more money. controversial opinion I know but all the dioramas are and could be cheap system scale sets. I remember yodas hut, an Endor speeder chase and the final dual all being fairly cheapish sets at some point. At some point the price rises will haunt lego. Even the idea of a £1000 set is just crazy Quote
Flawless Cowboy Posted February 2 Posted February 2 13 hours ago, Samppu said: 2021 (or so) - even as many as 20% of the revenue came from the adults. The kids are only addicted to TikTok and smartphone nowadays, it is the adult market, which has become a considerable motor for the growth, I have understood. Covid was, as you implied, fuel to the fire in catching more adults to the hobby Wonder how this affects Lego’s priorities and image in the future. If this gap keeps widening, as kids become less drawn to physical toys in favor of digital, as the nostalgic adult market grows, what happens to Lego? Can it remain a global giant without kids and kids who grew up to become nostalgic adults? Quote
icm Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, Llewop said: controversial opinion I know but all the dioramas are and could be cheap system scale sets. I remember yodas hut, an Endor speeder chase and the final dual all being fairly cheapish sets at some point. At some point the price rises will haunt lego. Even the idea of a £1000 set is just crazy Not controversial at all, I think a lot of us feel that way. The Endor speeder chase especially should have been a $30-$40 remake of the classic set 7128 from 1999. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 2 Posted February 2 8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: I actually kinda want it to be banned here in the UK, to see if it actually benefits our kids I mean. I’m sure it would since doomscrolling is ruining attention spans. Also it’d be interesting to see if it works since someone across the pond ended the ban before it even lasted a day and had an effect. Also, I beg to differ. Until a year and an half ago I used to be a scout leader. And the kids there were very into Lego. In fact quite a lot of them were hyped for the 2022 AT TE. Not so much for the 2023 Coruscant Guard gunship and 327th BP. I’m currently a cadet instructor, and whilst it is an older demographic (mid teenagers), the boys seem to still be into the occasional Lego set, even play-sets. The girls seem to like collecting the botanical collection from time to time. Whilst it is a problem, I think it comes down to the responsibility of the parents, not the kids. Parents can always stop them wasting hours upon hours on TikTok and video games by simply setting screen time limits on their devices. Kids easily get addicted to screens. Yeah we folded pretty fast over here (though I'm not sure it would have done much in terms of the doomscrolling, since they'd just go to instagram or youtube's versions.) It's a tricky situation (by the way, are "cadets" just schoolchildren, because that's such a cool name compared to what we have over here). I've worked in similar roles, and there are certainly kids who like lego- there were plenty of people who wanted me to bring my sets to class (though ironically that's also been true with middle-aged coworkers at jobs not involving kids), but I feel like the numbers are much lower than they used to be for little kids. I've got some family friends who just broke into middle school and apparently are like the only ones in the school still openly into lego. But then on the other end of it, half my college, men and women, are stalking the clearance shelves for lego and counting down to release dates. And not just for 18+ stuff, I know a girl who bought a ninjago set because she liked the show as a kid, or guys who think the venom car from marvel is the greatest set to grace store shelves in some time. I do think that the proportion of adults who buy lego for themselves HAS increased to a massive extent, and while not by the same amount, I think it has dropped for kids. I think lego is adjusting their product lines WAAAAAAAAY too drastically as a response though- they're essentially largely writing off kids as a part of the market for themes like star wars. 2 hours ago, Llewop said: controversial opinion I know but all the dioramas are and could be cheap system scale sets. I remember yodas hut, an Endor speeder chase and the final dual all being fairly cheapish sets at some point. At some point the price rises will haunt lego. Even the idea of a £1000 set is just crazy Some of them could have been, sure, but it's like saying the UCS X-wing could have been a playset X-wing. It's not so much that they're overpriced (though some of them were) as that they're different things. I don't mind the 18+ sublines, especially the dioramas, so long as they don't replace so many system sets like they currently are. (Also, the Final Duel was the same price in system as it was in the diorama) Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted February 2 Posted February 2 A lot of us here were kids 10-20 years ago. And Lego made an explicit choice to target us with Star Wars sets. Lego is explicitly using other themes to target kids now (Bluey, Animal Crossings, etc…) And now as adults finally with disposable income Lego knows we still want to buy Star Wars sets and therefor shifts that more to 14-18+ sets. As much as I enjoy 6-10+ sets, I can’t build those forever and need the more complex, more detailed sets to keep me buying. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: (by the way, are "cadets" just schoolchildren, because that's such a cool name compared to what we have over here). Really the age range is from 14 to early 20s/ late teens. Basically from middle school to university. Here in the UK we have cadet forces for the Army, Royal Navy and RAF. It’s a Ministry of Defence funded program (with a few donations from the parents) In the army syllabus we teach them stuff like: foot drill, rifle drill, weapon maintenance, fire and movement, battle tactics, some hand to hand combat, map and compass navigation, principles of marksmanship, first aid, target indication, field craft, formations, cooking in the field, fire building, basher building, urban warfare (TIBUA) and night time ambushes. On exercise we use blank ammunition. For these exercises we usually go to combat villages and other MOD training areas. We only use live rounds on ranges. Most contingents have an armoury of L98A2’s. From time to time we go on camps and stay at military bases. This gives the cadets a chance to run the obstacle course and work on their teamwork. Sennybridge and Oakhampton are personal favourites of mine. Another thing we do to make it more appealing is do a lot of adventure training (e.g.: climbing, canyoning, mountain biking, sea kayaking, caving etc..) It’s great. When I first became an army cadet I wasn’t too sure. But my experience has been life changing. So now I’m an instructor so I can make sure new cadets can have the same great experience I’ve had. But I digress. I wonder if we’ll get any reveals at SW celebration? The Andor U-Wing will probably get revealed before then. But I feel like K2S0 and the Ewok have a decent chance at it. Quote
Tariq j Posted February 2 Posted February 2 7 hours ago, Llewop said: Also Lego used to be cheapish. Battle packs being £10 was pocket money. Then you had several sets that were 20-40 pound which again was within reason. Now cheapest sets are £40 to start with parents ain’t got the money to spend loads it’s either this or that whereas before there was more room to buy more things. Yeah, I remember when they were 9.99 - great pocket money/stocking filler for Christmas type thing. I’ve said it before but I do think we’re missing that range of good < $50 sets. Looking back (only 6-7 years ago) at some of the sets coming out, you had things like Duel on Naboo, Duel on Mustafar, Yoda’s hut, the Hoth Medical Bay, the Ach To set, the landspeeders from the Solo film, I think you even had a small Mos Eisley Cantina set. There was a healthy balance of expensive and affordable sets. I think there definitely has been a shift in the age demographics of people buying Lego - something that’s been reflected in their products. Quote
Nolaheru Posted February 3 Posted February 3 4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Really the age range is from 14 to early 20s/ late teens. Basically from middle school to university. Here in the UK we have cadet forces for the Army, Royal Navy and RAF. It’s a Ministry of Defence funded program (with a few donations from the parents) In the army syllabus we teach them stuff like: foot drill, rifle drill, weapon maintenance, fire and movement, battle tactics, some hand to hand combat, map and compass navigation, principles of marksmanship, first aid, target indication, field craft, formations, cooking in the field, fire building, basher building, urban warfare (TIBUA) and night time ambushes. On exercise we use blank ammunition. For these exercises we usually go to combat villages and other MOD training areas. We only use live rounds on ranges. Most contingents have an armoury of L98A2’s. From time to time we go on camps and stay at military bases. This gives the cadets a chance to run the obstacle course and work on their teamwork. Sennybridge and Oakhampton are personal favourites of mine. Another thing we do to make it more appealing is do a lot of adventure training (e.g.: climbing, canyoning, mountain biking, sea kayaking, caving etc..) It’s great. When I first became an army cadet I wasn’t too sure. But my experience has been life changing. So now I’m an instructor so I can make sure new cadets can have the same great experience I’ve had. We have a similar thing with different Defence cadets in Australia, but I was a Bush Ranger Cadet where we basically train to be Park Rangers. I didn't really know anyone else at my school who was as into Lego as I was though quite a few people enjoyed just occasionally building something. Maybe when I go to uni it will be different. Quote
Rwbricks Posted February 3 Posted February 3 7 hours ago, Tariq j said: Yeah, I remember when they were 9.99 - great pocket money/stocking filler for Christmas type thing. I’ve said it before but I do think we’re missing that range of good < $50 sets. Looking back (only 6-7 years ago) at some of the sets coming out, you had things like Duel on Naboo, Duel on Mustafar, Yoda’s hut, the Hoth Medical Bay, the Ach To set, the landspeeders from the Solo film, I think you even had a small Mos Eisley Cantina set. There was a healthy balance of expensive and affordable sets. Agreed on needing more affordable good system sets. I wish they didn’t stop making the $20 duels sets (even though they’d cost more nowadays). There was so much potential. Quote
SketchBrick Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Rwbricks said: Agreed on needing more affordable good system sets. I wish they didn’t stop making the $20 duels sets (even though they’d cost more nowadays). There was so much potential. This would be very welcome in my opinion. Even if you had to scale down the builds a touch, or charge $25, a lot of people would love to get 2 cool figures with some fun play potential at an accessible price point. Dooku vs Yoda is an obvious example, but Obi-Wan vs Vader from ANH, Duel on Exegol, etc. could all make cool cheap sets. Quote
Llewop Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, SketchBrick said: This would be very welcome in my opinion. Even if you had to scale down the builds a touch, or charge $25, a lot of people would love to get 2 cool figures with some fun play potential at an accessible price point. Dooku vs Yoda is an obvious example, but Obi-Wan vs Vader from ANH, Duel on Exegol, etc. could all make cool cheap sets. Well we had the dual on Naboo, the dual from TFA, the original Dooku vs Yoda set among others all were decent sets with decent prices. I get people want highly detailed sets that are accurate and what not but these cheaper sets gave us the figures and the beautiful thing about with LEGO is you can customise these things. Kids make their own canon and I think Lego is in danger of losing that with the lack of these cheaper sets Quote
Tariq j Posted February 3 Posted February 3 9 hours ago, Rwbricks said: Agreed on needing more affordable good system sets. I wish they didn’t stop making the $20 duels sets (even though they’d cost more nowadays). There was so much potential. 7 hours ago, SketchBrick said: This would be very welcome in my opinion. Even if you had to scale down the builds a touch, or charge $25, a lot of people would love to get 2 cool figures with some fun play potential at an accessible price point. Dooku vs Yoda is an obvious example, but Obi-Wan vs Vader from ANH, Duel on Exegol, etc. could all make cool cheap sets. Yeah, the small Duel sets would be a welcome return. Something I also really liked about sets like Duel on Naboo or the Starkiller base duel is that they were cheap that you could buy multiple of them to create a larger set. Another duel you could do would be a Yoda vs Sidious set complete with a senate pod (and podium). Quote
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