2025 Castle [wishlist/speculation]

[zoth33]

16 hours ago, KristinnK said:

The Siege Encampment set is certainly a strange beast. It's not a single big structure, but in fact many different smaller ones, that would have made much more sense to sell as separate sets. It's almost like a whole Castle wave combined into one huge set, except it doesn't have any actual castle walls. I question the wisdom of having selected this set and selling it in this form.

There was a vote on the BDP sets and I'm assuming lego does do their due diligence and got feed back about this set to select it and make it available.  The comments on the BDP site were quite positive so they must have seen potential in this set.  

[iragm]

17 hours ago, KotZ said:

But I agree, the price is way too high for this, the figs are nothing special, and neither are the pieces. Personally, I don't mind if a set has more widely available parts, but the build at least for this, and no offense to the designer, it's very... basic? Sure it uses SNOT techniques and does look good and coherent (and let's be honest, lot's of LEGO's siege sets are just one vehicle and a small wall) and nice to have a variety of equipment and a camp, but the design is a bit more basic than I would hope from the BDP. 

This is exactly my assessment of it as well.  It's doubly strange given that SleeplessNight is one of the most talented designers around, consistently making buildings that feel like an official set with cool parts usage and interesting angles.  I'll probably pick up the Transylvania Adventures castle of his next round, that is much more typical of his work and looks great.

[Mopasali]

On the Trevi Fountain, it looks like there's a new/re olor piece for a brick-built horse in the fountain?  I'm not an expert, but maybe it's a recolor of the horse head in the CMF for Knight of the Yellow Castle.  But I like the possibility it's how they will decorate the upcoming Creator Medieval Horse and Unicorn Castles.

[Black Falcon]

1 hour ago, Mopasali said:

On the Trevi Fountain, it looks like there's a new/re olor piece for a brick-built horse in the fountain?  I'm not an expert, but maybe it's a recolor of the horse head in the CMF for Knight of the Yellow Castle.  But I like the possibility it's how they will decorate the upcoming Creator Medieval Horse and Unicorn Castles.

Should be the same piece, just in an unprinted version. However I am not sure, if that piece wouldn´t be a bit to special to be used in the creator theme..

[Aanchir]

58 minutes ago, Black Falcon said:

Should be the same piece, just in an unprinted version. However I am not sure, if that piece wouldn´t be a bit to special to be used in the creator theme..

Creator doesn't really tend to shy away from minifig accessories or other small decorative elements, so I don't think a part like this would be off-limits. My bigger concern would be that the hobby-horse head might be too small relative to a brick-built horse large enough to carry a minifig or pull a wagon.

[Black Falcon]

20 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

Creator doesn't really tend to shy away from minifig accessories or other small decorative elements, so I don't think a part like this would be off-limits. My bigger concern would be that the hobby-horse head might be too small relative to a brick-built horse large enough to carry a minifig or pull a wagon.

I´d actually more thought about just the head used as decorative element to represent the faction, than an actual built horse. Eitherway I am still not to sure if I would expect the piece to show up in the set.I mean in the end it would be used exactly as a horse head decoration, and not exactly as part to built something else. Not saying they can´t do it, but I would still be surprised if they would.

Anyways I could see it work well as either a Stone Element or End of a Timber Beam.

[thetang22]

I’d be ecstatic with a return of the Black Knights.  I’ve only in the past few months given Lego much attention again after a mostly 5+ year hiatus, and absolutely LOVE the attention the classic Castle factions have received.  I my own head canon, the Black Knights and Wolfpack were the last of the real “classic” Castle factions.  I understand the Dragon Masters came out towards the end of that and overlapped with them, but as many others note - there was a stylistic change in Castle away from the classic vibe with the introduction of the Dragon Masters.

In my mind, the 5 classic Castle factions are:  Crusaders, Black Falcons, Forestmen, Black Knights, and Wolfpack.  Lego has now given some modern day attention to each of those 5 classic factions except 1:  the Black Knights.  While the Black Knights never had distinctive faction torsos (simply generic scale mail), they did have my all-time favorite shield:  the Black Knights triangle dragon shield.

In regards to the rumored 2025 Creator castle being something with horses:  one possible idea I had was what if that actually hints towards “cavalry”?  And to run along with that - the Black Knights may be one of the most (if not THE most) cavalry-heavy factions Lego Castle has ever seen.  I understand the discussion about Creator focusing on brick-built animals doesn’t help my argument.

Most of this is likely just my own wishful thinking…but that IS the point of this particular thread 😉

[zoth33]

1 hour ago, thetang22 said:

I’d be ecstatic with a return of the Black Knights.  I’ve only in the past few months given Lego much attention again after a mostly 5+ year hiatus, and absolutely LOVE the attention the classic Castle factions have received.  I my own head canon, the Black Knights and Wolfpack were the last of the real “classic” Castle factions.  I understand the Dragon Masters came out towards the end of that and overlapped with them, but as many others note - there was a stylistic change in Castle away from the classic vibe with the introduction of the Dragon Masters.

In my mind, the 5 classic Castle factions are:  Crusaders, Black Falcons, Forestmen, Black Knights, and Wolfpack.  Lego has now given some modern day attention to each of those 5 classic factions except 1:  the Black Knights.  While the Black Knights never had distinctive faction torsos (simply generic scale mail), they did have my all-time favorite shield:  the Black Knights triangle dragon shield.

In regards to the rumored 2025 Creator castle being something with horses:  one possible idea I had was what if that actually hints towards “cavalry”?  And to run along with that - the Black Knights may be one of the most (if not THE most) cavalry-heavy factions Lego Castle has ever seen.  I understand the discussion about Creator focusing on brick-built animals doesn’t help my argument.

Most of this is likely just my own wishful thinking…but that IS the point of this particular thread 😉

I think the rumor is that it's horse knights which would imply a horse heraldry.  I think people like yourself and others that think it's another faction riding a horse are looking to hard into it and projecting your own wishes toward whatever faction you think it may be riding said horse.  I think it's simply horse knights otherwise we would have had other info saying that it was a different faction which we have not.  

[thetang22]

I would not say I “think” it’s a different faction….my “hope” would be that it is a different faction.  I don’t think that is likely…I just think it would be neat.

That was literally my first post back on this website in several years - I don’t pretend to have any relevant insight into anything.  This thread is a wishlist - I posted my wish - and referenced a few other people’s rumors from this thread and other adjacent threads that I read to possibly give some rationale about “how” my idea could be justified.

I'm not pretending that it’s likely.  Simply that I’d be excited if it was.

Edited January 18 by thetang22

[zoth33]

20 hours ago, thetang22 said:

I would not say I “think” it’s a different faction….my “hope” would be that it is a different faction.  I don’t think that is likely…I just think it would be neat.

That was literally my first post back on this website in several years - I don’t pretend to have any relevant insight into anything.  This thread is a wishlist - I posted my wish - and referenced a few other people’s rumors from this thread and other adjacent threads that I read to possibly give some rationale about “how” my idea could be justified.

I'm not pretending that it’s likely.  Simply that I’d be excited if it was.

It's all good there just seems to be a lot of people thinking it's a knight riding a horse, which if it were the case leakers would have said it's a different faction like black knight, BF, etc riding the horse.  Personally I would love to see the Dragon knights from Kingdoms return I think they were some of the best looking knights.  I don't think we will see Black knights soon unless they decide make a new mold for the plumes.  I am very interested to see what faction won in the Minifig Gumball Machine set.  Hopefully that faction will end up on PaB at some point.  

Personally any new faction is welcome in my eyes.  It will add variety and something new to Lego castle.  

Edited January 19 by zoth33

[DonQuixote]

On 1/19/2025 at 8:33 PM, zoth33 said:

It's all good there just seems to be a lot of people thinking it's a knight riding a horse, which if it were the case leakers would have said it's a different faction like black knight, BF, etc riding the horse.  Personally I would love to see the Dragon knights from Kingdoms return I think they were some of the best looking knights.  I don't think we will see Black knights soon unless they decide make a new mold for the plumes.  I am very interested to see what faction won in the Minifig Gumball Machine set.  Hopefully that faction will end up on PaB at some point.  

Personally any new faction is welcome in my eyes.  It will add variety and something new to Lego castle.  

Absolutely agree 👍 

On 1/18/2025 at 9:22 PM, thetang22 said:

I’d be ecstatic with a return of the Black Knights.  I’ve only in the past few months given Lego much attention again after a mostly 5+ year hiatus, and absolutely LOVE the attention the classic Castle factions have received.  I my own head canon, the Black Knights and Wolfpack were the last of the real “classic” Castle factions.  I understand the Dragon Masters came out towards the end of that and overlapped with them, but as many others note - there was a stylistic change in Castle away from the classic vibe with the introduction of the Dragon Masters.

In my mind, the 5 classic Castle factions are:  Crusaders, Black Falcons, Forestmen, Black Knights, and Wolfpack.  Lego has now given some modern day attention to each of those 5 classic factions except 1:  the Black Knights.  

I absolutely agree 👍 

[ctx1769]

Looking forward to set 31168 to get a few sets should be able to build a decent castle from that. I believe the kraken design won for the gumball machine. 

[Westbrick]

7 hours ago, ctx1769 said:

I believe the kraken design won for the gumball machine. 

What makes you say that? Has it been announced? I voted for Kraken so I’d be happy with that!

[Roebuck]

55 minutes ago, Westbrick said:

Has it been announced?

I do not think so, probably just a speculation.
My guess based on comments, popularity etc:

1. Raven or Kraken
2. Raven or Kraken
3. Griffin
4. Bull

Kraken probably have the most loud supporters, however Raven are one of the more popular and expensive fractions so hopefully a lot of not so vocal people have voted for that

[Black Falcon]

I would think it will be either Griffin or Kraken Knights since overall people seemed to rather get a new faction than an old one, though of course the raven knights are pretty popular too. Bull is almost granted to get the last place IMO.

[Cyprinus]

According to Blockid in the Brick Tap server, one of the builds for the upcoming 3 in 1 Castle will "basically be Kingdoms Joust". With brick-built horses.

5 figs, a new faction.

Edited February 22 by Cyprinus

[Westbrick]

Okay, am excited by that. I won’t build the horses, but non brick built ones aren’t in short supply elsewhere. Can someone remind me when this is being released?

[Cyprinus]

3 minutes ago, Westbrick said:

Okay, am excited by that. I won’t build the horses, but non brick built ones aren’t in short supply elsewhere. Can someone remind me when this is being released?

August.

[thetang22]

While plenty of people have mentioned that Creator sets always have brick built animals… brick built horses sound like a TERRIBLE idea for the typical Lego Castle audience.

[Corydoras]

I'm guessing the brick-built horses might look like the ones I designed:

[zoth33]

4 hours ago, Cyprinus said:

According to Blockid in the Brick Tap server, one of the builds for the upcoming 3 in 1 Castle will "basically be Kingdoms Joust". With brick-built horses.

5 figs, a new faction.

5 figs sounds good to me can't wait to see what the new faction will look like.  

[GeoBrick]

A new faction eh? Chances are this new faction may be the same that would come out with the Ideas Minifigure Prize Machine set.

[BrickJagger]

9 hours ago, Cyprinus said:

According to Blockid in the Brick Tap server, one of the builds for the upcoming 3 in 1 Castle will "basically be Kingdoms Joust". With brick-built horses.

5 figs, a new faction.

Not thrilled by the brick-built horses, but that's what I expected. The real lede here is that if this is true, it's the first time in 12 years that we're getting an honest-to-God new Castle faction that isn't a one-off CMF. Very cool!

[Roebuck]

11 hours ago, Westbrick said:

I won’t build the horses, but non brick built ones aren’t in short supply elsewhere. 

They are not in short supply on PAB, but I would argue they are in short supply in Castle and other sets, but:

1 hour ago, BrickJagger said:

Not thrilled by the brick-built horses, but that's what I expected. 

Same here.

4 hours ago, GeoBrick said:

A new faction eh? Chances are this new faction may be the same that would come out with the Ideas Minifigure Prize Machine set.

Probably the most likely, but we will see.

When do we expect the Ideas set, should be before August then 🤔

A new Disney Castle leaked, not sure if that has anything useful 🙈

[karrit]

Boo for brick built horses.  I' guess I'll be using those parts for something else.  It would be nice to get some new different colored bardings to go along with whatever the new faction is but that wouldn't happen in a Creator set.  Too bad we will get a joust set without the proper bardings.  May have to pick up a few more of the ones from the Lion Knights Castle.  I also wish we could get some Black or Gray molded horses.