42164 Off-Road Buggy

[Ngoc Nguyen]

 

Edited December 2, 2023 by Ngoc Nguyen

[2GodBDGlory]

Looks somewhat interesting--the rear axle looks like it has an axle and a micro V4 suspended on a basic trailing arm principle, but then that whole module appears to be jointed for pendular suspension as well. Then it looks like you can tilt the whole car in order to steer it?

[pow]

Nice Set. I like it! Good parts and also a shock absorber.

Fun Fact, i made a few tilt steering cars from small Technic sets recently. My best is this one, for 42116

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I claim that TLG copied from me! (kidding of course!)

[Jundis]

1 hour ago, pow said:

I claim that TLG copied from me

:D

Actually, this is an easy but cool mechanism and the 42164 looks cool, too.

In the third function pic on the lower backside, is it just a door or another function?

[gyenesvi]

5 hours ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

Then it looks like you can tilt the whole car in order to steer it?

That was my first impression too, but not sure if it's just the angle of the photo. The box does not show that you have to tilt it. On the other hand, it does not have a HoG either.

37 minutes ago, Jundis said:

In the third function pic on the lower backside, is it just a door or another function?

I thought it's something functional, but you are probably right that it just opens the panel.

It's okay for a mini set. Is this car transporter scale?

[Jockos]

3 hours ago, gyenesvi said:

That was my first impression too, but not sure if it's just the angle of the photo. The box does not show that you have to tilt it. On the other hand, it does not have a HoG either.

The lower left picture has a tilted position, so I bet is has to be tilted, accordingly.

[Maaboo the Witch]

They seriously couldn't think up anything cleverer than "Buggy" for the stickers?

We really are looking at Brutalis and En Gyne in the rear-view mirror.

[anyUser]

8 hours ago, pow said:

I claim that TLG copied from me

There's 8226 from last millenium to compete with.

[Arioh]

This set totally got my attention. While space theme is fresh and outlandish in goo way, i doubt that i will get any of them. But this small buggy gives me strong 42022 B-Model and 42124 vibe. Most likely will be my only purchase from first wave of 2024 sets...  And 100% will build it from my spares when instruction will be avalible..

[howitzer]

With those slick tyres I wonder where's the offroad in this set...

[SNIPE]

3 hours ago, Arioh said:

 Most likely will be my only purchase from first wave of 2024 sets...  And 100% will build it from my spares when instruction will be avalible..

So then why buy it 🤔

[Bartybum]

6 hours ago, howitzer said:

With those slick tyres I wonder where's the offroad in this set...

The shock at the rear axle

[pow]

14 hours ago, Jundis said:

Actually, this is an easy but cool mechanism

Hehe, thanks. :)

 

8 hours ago, anyUser said:

There's 8226 from last millenium to compete with.

Oh, how are you able to remember this set? I would have forgotten years ago.

Did i mention, that my MOC has a working steering wheel and the role cage can be folded up.

 

6 hours ago, howitzer said:

With those slick tyres I wonder where's the offroad in this set...

Luckily they did this weird tires! I was afraid TLG would recycle the tires from the pullback monster trucks. And what also speaks against offroad capabilities is the supposed tilt steering as it leads to heavy suspension steer when driving offroad.

[lmdesigner42]

I'm impressed by all the features they packed into this small model! Reminds me a bit of a modern take on 8048. I think the 8066 B-model had a bit of tilt-to-steer going on too, but only on the front axle.

Also, I just realized from looking at these images that the coiling on the soft spring was updated this year.

[anyUser]

9 hours ago, pow said:

Oh, how are you able to remember this set?

Got it as a gift at that time, and although I didn't understand studless technic I was pulled out of my dark ages. Therefore it will be always special.

[Bartybum]

13 hours ago, pow said:

And what also speaks against offroad capabilities is the supposed tilt steering as it leads to heavy suspension steer when driving offroad.

I think playability was prioritised for this over realism. I wonder whether we're clutching pearls over a name

Edited December 3, 2023 by Bartybum

[pow]

4 hours ago, anyUser said:

Got it as a gift at that time, and although I didn't understand studless technic I was pulled out of my dark ages. Therefore it will be always special.

awww that sounds hearth warming! When I was a kid I came in touch with this control mechanism with a car that came with an "Überraschungs-Ei" (Surprise-Egg?).

And last year the tractor of the set 60344 retriggered my inner child. It uses parts 69963 and 69964 to form this steering.

 

1 hour ago, Bartybum said:

I think playability was prioritised for this over realism. I wonder whether we're clutching pearls over a name

Thank you for your hint, I apologize if i sounded too negative! I am quite happy with this set. And the name is very not important to me. But I can also empathize with Howitzer's thoughts. ...Why doesn't TLG name the set simply "Street-Buggy"?

Best wishes :)

Edited December 3, 2023 by pow

[anyUser]

Which of the parts are Bright Blue respectively Dark Azur?
Cross block would be new in azure while both rims would be new in blue.

[gyenesvi]

3 hours ago, anyUser said:

Which of the parts are Bright Blue respectively Dark Azur?
Cross block would be new in azure while both rims would be new in blue.

I think parts are regular blue and neon yellow. Was also thinking that the front rim is new in that color.

Edited December 3, 2023 by gyenesvi

[R0Sch]

Lol, someone messed up the photoshoping trying to recolor a red 3L pin with axle in the front to blue just because the left side looks messier than the other. Pretty lame if even LEGO is bothered by colorful pins.

[Zerobricks]

3 minutes ago, R0Sch said:

Lol, someone messed up the photoshoping trying to recolor a red 3L pin with axle in the front to blue just because the left side looks messier than the other. Pretty lame if even LEGO is bothered by colorful pins.
 

Well spotted. Though I think the prototype was in a different color, probably red and got recolored into blue.

[1gor]

On 12/2/2023 at 11:26 PM, pow said:

 And what also speaks against offroad capabilities is the supposed tilt steering as it leads to heavy suspension steer when driving offroad.

Bumpy (off)roading + tilt steering = seasick

[R0Sch]

Finished the whole model! The only thing I'm unsure about is if the steering works with a pin in the middle of the black steering beam like I did or not. Maybe someone can verify it irl. Never mind, the back of the box shows it. 42164.io

Edited December 4, 2023 by R0Sch

[schraubedrin]

Looks good. I'm always impressed what you guys can achieve on so little visual information.

Although in the product picture both doors can be opened independently, and i would wager they will be mounted on some form of friction?

[R0Sch]

4 minutes ago, schraubedrin said:

Looks good. I'm always impressed what you guys can achieve on so little visual information.

Although in the product picture both doors can be opened independently, and i would wager they will be mounted on some form of friction?

Thanks. This one was pretty easy since not many details were hidden. And good tip about the independent doors. Deleted the 3L axle connector. And yes, they are hinged on friction pins.