JintaiZ Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Honestly, this wave is a little underwhelming. The mechs look way too similar to one another. The dragon looks good though. Quote
mantax Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I didn't expect this wave to be that great. Yeah, it's just mechs and a dragon, but they are neat. Egalt is easily my favorite. he simply looks great, I like the straw hat and the fact that you can fold the wings because most dragons now have a massive wing span that you can't do anything about. I completely didn't expect to like the kai mech, but I really do (The same thing can be said about the Sora mech). It's baisicly an upgraded version of the Kai mech from the Dojo Temple. The wolf mech is just whacky with the really long limbs, and I love it. The cole mech is like super bulky, like I expected it to be a bit more built then the other mechs, but not to this level. The Jay mech I don't really like that much, but with 4 minifigures for only 10 Euro it's a definitive buy for me. The ninja suits look great, I don't really have anything more to say about them. The only thing that I dislike is the fact that Sora is reused form s1, like Arin at least gets a new hood. So the sets that I want are 71809, 71805, 71808 and 71806 but if Cole would be included in a magazine, I don't think I'd get it. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted December 2, 2023 Author Posted December 2, 2023 The January wave is kind of a mixed bag in terms of everything. There's too little variety — three gimmicks, six mechs, and two dragons. Dragon Strike gimmicks are really weird. Don't really know how I feel about those. The 4+ sets are pretty good. Arin's mech isn't noteworthy, but the Kai set is great. The dragon looks awesome (for a 4+ set), and it has some unique minifigures. All the mechs are pretty cool, but I feel like there's too many. They are all well-built, but they aren't particularly interesting. The Lloyd and Kai one have good minifigures tho. The battle pack is great. Four minifigures for 10€ is a win, and a really cheap way to get Master Lloyd. The mech isn't good — way too bulky around the chest. Egalt the Master Dragon is clearly the standout of this wave. The build is fantastic and extremely unique. Love how they gave him a hat, a moustache, and a sword. The minifigure selection is good enough, but it's really weird how they put the same three minifigures in a cheaper set (Lloyd's mech). Quote
a guy from somewhere Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Alright, ive had my time to see what I think, let's do ninjago now. Gimmick sets - Yeah.... no.... these really miss the mark for me. if it wasn't for the 2nd minifig and interesting wing elements, these easily could have been the worst gimmick sets of all time. Cool box art though. Will be excited to see how my local store tries (and fails) to fit these onto their shelves. 4+ sets - Arins mech aint pretty, but that comes with a lot of 4+ mechs. cool parts that are found elsewhere though. Source dragon duel though... Depending on the price and march wave I may pick this one up. I like the exclusive sword mould and Im so excited to see a quad-wing dragon, it's about damn time. Shame it's a 4+ dragon though. I like wyldfires new look, although I do think she blends in with other Kai suits from past waves. Speaking of Kai, wow. Climbing is kind of the family passion, so it's so cool to see a dedicated ninja-climbing suit. March wave is gonna be so cool, I cant wait. Other than that, nothing interesting. Battle pack - Love it. Tiny mech, cool. 4 figures, cooler. Master Lloyd? Coolest! Although, is that the ninjago movie face print? Jay looks great, love the new suits. Mech is fine, like a worse version of the nexo knights armour. Wolf figures are also incredibly cool. And the box art, wow. Mechs - lumping them all together as I feel this way about them. Dont get me wrong, im a huge mech fan. But even I can say this is too much. I like the idea of customisability, but I doubt I'll use it, Sora mech - Cool, waist articulation, but no new sora fig which is sad considering she's meant to be a main character. Looks to be good value for £20. Lloyd - liking the samurai look, and whoever the hell cinder is. Nya looks good, but the mech itself is half and half. The blending of green, black and grey doesnt work for me. Cole - Really like this one, definitely the most unique. Love the Cole fig. Hope its £20. Kai - not much interest in the kai mech, got plenty already. I like the wolf mech, it's certainly unique as proportions go (never mind, just seen HD pics of the mini monkie mech!). The figs carry the set though. Jordana is back, Kai looks amazing, as does zane. Wolf warrior is cool. Master dragon - WOWOOO ok this guy looks cool. As bricksbymind speculated, looks like Wu and Garmadon fused into a dragon. Colour scheme is a little iffy but I think I like it. Figures are alright I guess, Ras is the stand out. Love the side build, and the head Egalt needs a special mention. Overall, mid wave honestly. This feels like a worse version of core, with so many mechs. I like the battle pack and the master dragon, however I feel like I'll be more easily swayed by the more interesting march sets. A 4 armed climbing mech sounds fresh, and I love temples, so im excited to see that. Hopefully Arin and Sora get new climbing suits too. Honestly im kind of glad the wave isn't spectacular, I will probably pick up the dragon and the battle pack set. Rest of my budget is going to that sweet sweet sci-fi city theme. And maybe the Mei mech if I feel up to it. Quote
Takanuinuva Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) I wonder what happened with Kai's Climber Set? I don't think his mech is supposed to be it. Edit: Yea we're missing 4 sets apparently Young Dragon Riyu 71810 Arin's Off-Road Buggy Car 71811 Kai's Ninja Climber Mech 71812 Dragon Stone Shrine 71819 Either these 4 were just rumors and not true. Or we haven't seen the whole line. Edited December 2, 2023 by Takanuinuva Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Takanuinuva said: I wonder what happened with Kai's Climber Set? I don't think his mech is supposed to be it. Edit: Yea we're missing 4 sets apparently Young Dragon Riyu 71810 Arin's Off-Road Buggy Car 71811 Kai's Ninja Climber Mech 71812 Dragon Stone Shrine 71819 Either these 4 were just rumors and not true. Or we haven't seen the whole line. March releases. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted December 2, 2023 Author Posted December 2, 2023 The biggest problem with this wave imo are the suits. They are ridiculously inconsistent. The worst part is how Arin and Sora are totally separate from the other Ninja. Whereas in the first Season they looked good next to each other and made sense since the series was just beginning, now it feels much worse. What's just as bad are the suits themselves. Sora is repeated from the previous wave. Wait, what? That's ridiculous. She does get a new variant with hair, but it's inaccurate (really? they couldn't have made a new mould?), which makes it even worse. Same goes for Arin, but even worse. They don't fully reuse the previous suit, but rather slap a gold mask on it, which looks awful. As for the original, the suits are mostly consistent. No shoulder pads when they have a mech, which is understandable, although the suits look much worse without them. The legs are inconsistent tho — Zane and Cole have them coloured the same as their torsos, making their suits much cleaner in effect (while some, like Nya's light blue and dark grey look messy). The fact that Lloyd and Kai have new, exclusive suits makes it even weirder. I suppose the March wave will add even more weird suits (Arin will probably get another suit that's a messy mash-up). TL;DR: Sora and Arin are annoyingly inconsistent with the other Ninja, and the fact that they reuse parts of their suits from the previous wave is ridiculous. Quote
Lion King Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Hmmm I think I will skip all sets but I will pick up some minifigures. Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: The fact that Lloyd and Kai have new, exclusive suits makes it even weirder. I am expecting “Climber” variants of the other Ninja in the March/June waves, and Lloyd’s Sensei outfit will also probably not be exclusive (I suspect that it will appear in the Shadow Dojo). Maybe the armoured suits are just the Ninja’s mech-piloting suits? 🤔 Hopefully we will get new variants of Arin and Sora (with new hair) in the later waves (we did get a new Wyldfyre, after all)! I just realised that Lloyd’s “Climber” variant is visible in the artwork on the side of some of the boxes; it also looks like Arin has his full S1 outfit in the art on his mech, so maybe no new suits for him and Sora? Quote
KaiNinjaOfFire Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Is the the 71813 shadow dojo also a january release or this initial wave really just all mechs Edited December 3, 2023 by KaiNinjaOfFire Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, KaiNinjaOfFire said: Is the the 71813 shadow dojo also a january release or this initial wave really just all mechs Most likely March. 6 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said: I am expecting “Climber” variants of the other Ninja in the March/June waves, and Lloyd’s Sensei outfit will also probably not be exclusive (I suspect that it will appear in the Shadow Dojo). Maybe the armoured suits are just the Ninja’s mech-piloting suits? 🤔 Hopefully we will get new variants of Arin and Sora (with new hair) in the later waves (we did get a new Wyldfyre, after all)! That's what I can't figure out. If they switched to Climber variants in the March wave, we'd never get variants of Kai, Cole, and Jay with shoulder pads. But if they don't, we won't get some Ninjas' Climber suits. There's also the option of saving those for a June wave, but I fully expect a new setting with new suits and new villains. That's what always happens — two separate waves a year based on different seasons. Unless they are changing things up with Dragons Rising, and we're only getting one setting per year. No evidence to support that tho. Master Lloyd will also appear in the Dragonstone Temple. Quote
Fire-Ninja Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Dragons Rising season 2 will be 20 22 minute episodes, spanning across a whole year, so it is highly probable that the summer sets will be a continuation of the Season 2 line spanning from January to June 2024. Also for the first time will be getting major character development and focus for Kai so super excited for season 2, also we should be getting each Ninja in a climber variant suit, so expect climber ninja variant suits in the summer sets too, Edited December 3, 2023 by Fire-Ninja Quote
Classic_Spaceman Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 21 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: That's what I can't figure out. If they switched to Climber variants in the March wave, we'd never get variants of Kai, Cole, and Jay with shoulder pads. But if they don't, we won't get some Ninjas' Climber suits. Since those shoulder pad pieces are readily-available (and we get an extra one when buying all of the sets, since Nya has the part in both of her appearances), I would much prefer that the March/June sets have Climber versions of the other Ninja. BTW, the box art does not confirm the lack of Climber suits for Ninja besides Lloyd and Kai - On the S1 boxes, we have art of Lloyd, Arin, Sora, Kai, Nya, and Riyu (no Zane, Cole, or Jay), but we did get the missing Ninja in the actual sets. Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted December 4, 2023 Author Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said: Since those shoulder pad pieces are readily-available (and we get an extra one when buying all of the sets, since Nya has the part in both of her appearances), I would much prefer that the March/June sets have Climber versions of the other Ninja. Some people don't like customising their sets, and I'd prefer if they were consistent with the design choices. I really hope that we get a new setting for the Summer wave – stretching a single season to three waves across a whole year would be an overkill. We got a single wave for the first season — because there's no need for more. 19 hours ago, Fire-Ninja said: Dragons Rising season 2 will be 20 22 minute episodes, spanning across a whole year, so it is highly probable that the summer sets will be a continuation of the Season 2 line spanning from January to June 2024. Don't know what your source is, but I seriously doubt it. They released the first season (20 22-minute epsiodes) in a four-month span. How would they stretch that to a whole year? Getting half a season every six months? Quote
a guy from somewhere Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 Can’t wait to watch MandR complain about how Ninjago can get a £10 set with 4 figs and a decent build but Star Wars has to charge £20… Quote
Meaf Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 I think my sentiments on the new wave are pretty much shared by the others who have already commented. It's not bad, but it all feels pretty basic. I am a huge mech fan, but none of these really strike my fancy much except maybe Cole's. Egalt is awesome and I may very well get him, but otherwise I will probably hold off until the March sets. Quote
Rolyat24 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 I wasn’t particularly excited for this wave before pictures were released, and that hasn’t changed at all since. While I do like a good mech, we’ve been spoiled with large-scale titan mechs recently, and I’ve been skipping most of the smaller ones. Some of these look good, like Cole’s, but most of them are more of the same. Egalt is the clear standout set of the wave, and even it isn’t all that impressive. I like that it looks distinct from previous dragons, but something about the color scheme feels a bit off. Maybe if the dark tan or red were removed the model would feel more cohesive. I’m looking forward to seeing some reviews to get a better sense of if this works or not. The gimmick sets (“Rising Dragon Strike”) are perhaps the most disappointing. What do they do? It looks like maybe they just jump or lunge a little bit, which is far less exciting than the typical spinner or flyer. Additionally, they don’t even really include exclusive figures. Nya and Kai have different masks but their torsos and legs are identical to their other appearances. Arin is identical. On one hand, it’s nice to not have to track down entirely new minifigures for this year’s randomly selected three characters. On the other, it’s frustrating that new designs weren’t developed for these sets. And what do minifigure collectors do about these mask variations? I think I’ll personally ignore them, Like others, I’m looking forward to the March sets. Other sets that release in March have been revealed, so maybe we’ll see these pretty soon (if they are indeed March releases). It would be great to see “climber” versions of the rest of the ninja, but I’m not sure there are enough slots to do that without spilling into the summer sets. Quote
Takanuinuva Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Rolyat24 said: I wasn’t particularly excited for this wave before pictures were released, and that hasn’t changed at all since. While I do like a good mech, we’ve been spoiled with large-scale titan mechs recently, and I’ve been skipping most of the smaller ones. Some of these look good, like Cole’s, but most of them are more of the same. Egalt is the clear standout set of the wave, and even it isn’t all that impressive. I like that it looks distinct from previous dragons, but something about the color scheme feels a bit off. Maybe if the dark tan or red were removed the model would feel more cohesive. I’m looking forward to seeing some reviews to get a better sense of if this works or not. The gimmick sets (“Rising Dragon Strike”) are perhaps the most disappointing. What do they do? It looks like maybe they just jump or lunge a little bit, which is far less exciting than the typical spinner or flyer. Additionally, they don’t even really include exclusive figures. Nya and Kai have different masks but their torsos and legs are identical to their other appearances. Arin is identical. On one hand, it’s nice to not have to track down entirely new minifigures for this year’s randomly selected three characters. On the other, it’s frustrating that new designs weren’t developed for these sets. And what do minifigure collectors do about these mask variations? I think I’ll personally ignore them, Like others, I’m looking forward to the March sets. Other sets that release in March have been revealed, so maybe we’ll see these pretty soon (if they are indeed March releases). It would be great to see “climber” versions of the rest of the ninja, but I’m not sure there are enough slots to do that without spilling into the summer sets. Do the dragon riders reuse prints? As I'm looking at Nya and it's not the same as her Dragons Rising outfit. Quote
Rolyat24 Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Takanuinuva said: Do the dragon riders reuse prints? As I'm looking at Nya and it's not the same as her Dragons Rising outfit. Yes, they reuse prints from the rest of the wave. The only exclusive parts to those minifigures seem to be the masks for Kai and Nya and the specific armor usage (even though the armor itself is nothing new). Compare this to nearly every previous gimmick set which contain exclusive prints. Quote
Takanuinuva Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 59 minutes ago, Rolyat24 said: Yes, they reuse prints from the rest of the wave. The only exclusive parts to those minifigures seem to be the masks for Kai and Nya and the specific armor usage (even though the armor itself is nothing new). Compare this to nearly every previous gimmick set which contain exclusive prints. Just checked and Ya you're right. At least makes it one less variant I have to collect. So I'll just get the dragon rider one since the Lloyd Mech doesn't interest me. Quote
mantax Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Every single set except for 71809, has the Shadow Dojo in the box art. The best look that there is at it, is in the Kai mech and the back of the Rising Dragon sets. It seems to have 3 floors. in the front there is a door with the wolf head, that has a large bell hanging from the mouth(as it was stated in the descriptions). The design of it is similar to the Ninja Dojo Temple. On the top there is a ball inbetween an arch. That design looks like the moon that is also featured in the set box art. So since the villains are wolf themed, that could have some importance, especially when it is on the top of the dojo, on the similar hight as the moon. The Eagalt set has a different setting from the rest of the sets. There is some kind of a temple there. on one side it has some text in ninjargan which translates to "pow", so that might be for pow-er. It has also some letters on the other side, but they are quite blurry, and I can't tell what they say. Quote
The_Fiery_Rooster Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 I really like what I'm seeing with these sets! The $20 mechs surprise me with how substantial they are for the price, and the Master Dragon feels very unique with the hat, beard, and sword in the tail. It gives me Dark Souls vibes honestly. Of the mechs, Cole's might be my favorite, the extra bulk makes it look great. I also noticed the hammer has 2 connectors on it, but I doubt the mech can hold it in 2 hands out of the box. I noticed something very funny though. If you look, Jay's dinky mech actually has more articulation that the bigger ones, given that it has wrists and the others don't. I'm tempted to try to add that to the larger ones, at least wrist rotation. Quote
a guy from somewhere Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Couple of interesting notes from the interview for 2024 sets - Ras has a mech (unknown how big), will be 2nd wave as there where no 3rd wave sets shown. Im assuming it comes in the shadow dojo, maybe like a throne? I guess Beatrix already did that though. Someone will be making their first appearance as a mini figure, I have a guess it could be Geo as "ears" are mentioned later on, and hes a likely candidate for that. Ninja suits are called "mech suits", designed to be sleek and fast and only for when piloting the mechs. Im assuming they were necessary due to the size constraints of using the larger hood/armour parts. There will be shorts on Sora making the mechs for the ninja, likely an in-between between seasons 1 and 2, which the 3 waves of 2024 cover. Coles mech is meant to have its lava arms, and a prototype model is what inspired Coles rock form in season 1 The duel molded sword is new and there will be a new hook part for the ninja when they go climbing in season 2 (climbing suit weapon)? The gong of shattering and the mallet of shattering are used to empower Ras's army, and they use the power of the blood moon. Egalt is a new character who will be a mentor to the ninja, like Wu. The presence of so many mechs was a decision taken as it showed well with kids in testing, particularly the modularity of it, but the designers didn't want half the year to be dedicated to just mechs so they split the year down into 3 waves. Egalt will also have a bigger story presence than the mechs. Cinder is the master of smoke, unknown what happened to Ash. Zane was given a mech suit but no mech for completeness sake, and the designers have confirmed the 4 plus dragon it is a source dragon. Theres also a zane car poly bag that rebuilds into the crystallised jet he had. They confirmed that pixel was going to be back and is on the story board. Ras had arm printing in the sets shown off, but the final sets dont have that, although it may be a variant in the shadow dojo. The rest of the year is apparently way more impressive in the march and summer. Quote
The_Fiery_Rooster Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, a guy from somewhere said: Ras has a mech (unknown how big), will be 2nd wave as there where no 3rd wave sets shown. Im assuming it comes in the shadow dojo, maybe like a throne? I guess Beatrix already did that though. Duck Bricks said in the comments that the Ras mech is the side build of the Kai mech set, the designer misspoke. I like that these suits are explicitly mech suits, it makes sense why they look the way they do. It also works in a meta sense given that neither the Dragons Rising suits or climber suits would fit in the mechs without removing the shoulder armor, which doesn’t work with those hoods. It just makes it weirder that Sora doesn’t get one. I guess her outfit is technical enough anyways? Also, the comment about Zane’s lack of mech is intriguing, given that Nya doesn’t have one either. Maybe a future set? The comments about the Cole mech show how much effort goes into these things, with the attention to detail of including the lava arms and then the show taking that design for his stone form. It seems nothing is a throwaway to the set designers or the show runners. Also I’m glad they noticed that just getting mechs for one half of the year is disappointing, which makes me very excited to see the march sets. Quote
mantax Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, a guy from somewhere said: Couple of interesting notes from the interview for 2024 sets - The details that I found in the Duck bricks video: At 13.12, inbetween the legs of the Sora mech you can see Riyu. At 3.46 you can see Nya in her climber suit. When the Lloyd suit is shown, in the background you can see a foot of the Kai's Climbing Mech. Quote
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