[ENTRY] 6280 Armada Flagship Remake

[bingowaldorf]

Ahoy mateys! When I saw this contest I knew that my only option was me beloved Armada Flagship. My parents got me this ship for my 12th birthday many moons ago. It has a special place in my heart despite its... interesting color scheme. Since the old two-tone ship hulls are long discontinued I decided to make my own out of plates and snot construction. My goal with this new hull was to make something around the same size as the original but with space below the waterline for hauling treasures. The new plate-based construction gives the same floor space at the bottom but as it tapers out towards the gun deck it ends up being 4 plates wider than the original. I plan to build this irl once my budget allows. I hope to reuse my original cloth sails from 6280, but since they are not modeled in stud.io little white clouds will have to do instead haha.

 

I made the cabin and forecastle as tall as I could to maintain the dip in the middle of the ship where the single cannon would be.

 

At the bow you can see how the plates change directions three times. I prototyped this with real lego before building digitally and it is remarkably strong, no technic needed!

 

The new and improved armament boasts 6 small caliber guns on each side. This is not some warship armed to the teeth, but at least now it can hold its own against the Barracuda.

 

The captains cabin decked out in gold. This is the spot I decided it was best to sneak in some red from the original color scheme.

 

The figurehead, I had always envisioned the original as the head of a sea monster.

 

 

Inside the cabin is not much room but a HUGE improvement over the zero interior space on the original.

 

And of course the hold is filled with Spanish treasure!

 

Here is a link to the stud.io file if anyone wants to take a closer look: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AcKbxQ2oPNGGTmdyK3Ams-dOzf5-12uJ/view?usp=sharing

Thanks!

@Mister Phes Can you add this to the entries index?

 

Edited August 25, 2023 by bingowaldorf
paging Mister Phes

[Tayaya]

Really neat build! Cool that you decided to build the hull, you did a great job with the shape, I'd love to see some slopes and tiles on it to make it a bit smoother and more consistent with upper part tho.

Also I don't know how stud.io works but I wonder if you could do some pictures with minifigures and show us some scenes with a bit of action like on the box art of the Armada Flagship. :D

Nice build all the same, don't feel like you need to do anything, just some suggestions for you to play around with if you have time. ;P 

 

[bingowaldorf]

16 minutes ago, Tayaya said:

Really neat build! Cool that you decided to build the hull, you did a great job with the shape, I'd love to see some slopes and tiles on it to make it a bit smoother and more consistent with upper part tho.

 Also I don't know how stud.io works but I wonder if you could do some pictures with minifigures and show us some scenes with a bit of action like on the box art of the Armada Flagship. :D

Nice build all the same, don't feel like you need to do anything, just some suggestions for you to play around with if you have time. ;P 

 

Thanks! I definitely think some experiments with tiles could be nice. My local PAB wall has 2x2 curved slopes in black so maybe Ill get a cup this weekend. I'm not so good with stud.io so I built the entire hull as a prototype and it looks more curvy irl than on the computer .... or maybe my eyes just don't work so well haha!

[Mazin]

Interesting concept for a moc, but a bit oversized and minecraftish for a legit Lego set :) That hull would need a serious reshaping to be greenlighted, and with You so much interested in building the whole thing, i think the only way to do it would be if the ship wasn't operational, that some even occured that forced it to come out of water, like for careening on a beach, or where it would be stuck in some shallow waters, so the crew would have to unload guns, or perhaps they could just use it as their improvised base, thus, in such case You could blow some holes in it. I always like the idea of a wreckage being used as villain's/hero's headquaters, so maybe it's the right direction? I mean, in short, this vessel will not sail in the Lego universe ;) So it could be used only in different ways, tho, of course, kids could play with it whatever way they would want ;)

I wouldn't go with so many guns too. 12 is a bit too much, thought that 6 was too much already. Big number of guns usualy doesn't make any diffence on Lego ships, for plays that is, it's only a visual upgrade and i think Baracuda was the limita already. It's different with all sorts of fortresses, hideouts etc, where every cannon can be placed in different locations of the set, creating a wider range of playing possibilities. 

But there are things here i definitely like. Like that quaterdeck, with little armory, Your color choices, gunports look very nice, at least i like those colors and mixing these shades of green with blue/purple (?), some people don't. And You made some realy nice decorative elements on both upper sides of the vessel. That circular bow, i'm not sure, i think it would be great for a different type of a ship, a mediterranean galliot or some merchant ship, they were sometimes built this wat. 

Perhaps, if You'd like to keep the number of guns then maybe two of them could be placed on that bow? Chase guns. They could bring additional play value, and break this monotous look of Your bow :)

I won't comment on sail, caused You've explaned it already, but be prepared that people will complain about them without even reading ;)

Oh, and i love the idea of using purple piece for inkpot! :) Briliant  :)    

Edited August 25, 2023 by Mazin

[bingowaldorf]

1 hour ago, Mazin said:

Interesting concept for a moc, but a bit oversized and minecraftish for a legit Lego set :) That hull would need a serious reshaping to be greenlighted, and with You so much interested in building the whole thing, i think the only way to do it would be if the ship wasn't operational, that some even occured that forced it to come out of water, like for careening on a beach, or where it would be stuck in some shallow waters, so the crew would have to unload guns, or perhaps they could just use it as their improvised base, thus, in such case You could blow some holes in it. I always like the idea of a wreckage being used as villain's/hero's headquaters, so maybe it's the right direction? I mean, in short, this vessel will not sail in the Lego universe ;) So it could be used only in different ways, tho, of course, kids could play with it whatever way they would want ;)

I wouldn't go with so many guns too. 12 is a bit too much, thought that 6 was too much already. Big number of guns usualy doesn't make any diffence on Lego ships, for plays that is, it's only a visual upgrade and i think Baracuda was the limita already. It's different with all sorts of fortresses, hideouts etc, where every cannon can be placed in different locations of the set, creating a wider range of playing possibilities. 

But there are things here i definitely like. Like that quaterdeck, with little armory, Your color choices, gunports look very nice, at least i like those colors and mixing these shades of green with blue/purple (?), some people don't. And You made some realy nice decorative elements on both upper sides of the vessel. That circular bow, i'm not sure, i think it would be great for a different type of a ship, a mediterranean galliot or some merchant ship, they were sometimes built this wat. 

Perhaps, if You'd like to keep the number of guns then maybe two of them could be placed on that bow? Chase guns. They could bring additional play value, and break this monotous look of Your bow :)

 I won't comment on sail, caused You've explaned it already, but be prepared that people will complain about them without even reading ;)

 Oh, and i love the idea of using purple piece for inkpot! :) Briliant  :)    

Thanks for the advice!

[Tayaya]

12 hours ago, bingowaldorf said:

Thanks! I definitely think some experiments with tiles could be nice. My local PAB wall has 2x2 curved slopes in black so maybe Ill get a cup this weekend. I'm not so good with stud.io so I built the entire hull as a prototype and it looks more curvy irl than on the computer .... or maybe my eyes just don't work so well haha!

Yeah, I think those slopes would probably work! :D I think the shape of the front of the hull is really nice though, even in the picture. XD

[MstrOfPppts]

I agree that the hull makes it far too parts intensive to ever come even close to a real lego set - not counting the BL designer programe. And it misses some much desired minifigures! Otherwise it's a nice build, I like the little cannons to fit that many in the deck. And although you're keeping all of the colors from the original, this one somehow makes sense, probably for it's size and does not look too much like color vomit (: I would make a second thought about the tan though ...

[bingowaldorf]

29 minutes ago, MstrOfPppts said:

I agree that the hull makes it far too parts intensive to ever come even close to a real lego set - not counting the BL designer programe. And it misses some much desired minifigures! Otherwise it's a nice build, I like the little cannons to fit that many in the deck. And although you're keeping all of the colors from the original, this one somehow makes sense, probably for it's size and does not look too much like color vomit (: I would make a second thought about the tan though ...

The tan is an attempt to mimic very pale brown which I have seen in a few ship paintings.

[Rogue Redcoat]

A nice start but it looks like you didn't finish tile that side of the ship, speaking of which looks to be too tall, is this meant to be a water line model or the entire hull? Other than this the shape of the of the ship is perfect, btw the tan could also be a medium azure at least some other builders have done this. The cannons look great even though Lego would never come out with these, there are some things that I would change though first, you need a box image and other photos showing some Minifigures in your ship. Anyway, the masts look out of place perhaps one in front could go more toward the middle of the ship, other than this a great build overall and happy building but step on it there's only a day left :)

[Mister Phes]

On 8/25/2023 at 11:29 AM, bingowaldorf said:

@Mister Phes Can you add this to the entries index?

Indeed I can! It has been added to the Entries Index. 

[durazno33]

One thing that would give some more volume to the top of this ship is to add some ropes and rigging and maybe a flag on the top.  As is the bottom of the ship is a very solid build but the top needs something to "even out the weight" so to speak.

[iragm]

This a very nice build.  I know how hard it can be to build smooth shapes like a ship's hull, and you've done a great job here!  As others mentioned, a few curved bricks would go a long way towards improving the look.

The main issue I see here is that this is (still, despite the shaping on the hull) pretty rectangular.  Look at the top down view, and contrast that against the pre-formed hulls used in official sets.

A jib sail, some ratlines, a crow's nest, a few flags, and this would look a lot better.  Even as it is, you're off to a great start with this build, so I hope you continue and finish this.  It would look fantastic if built with real bricks!