[ENTRY] 6259 Broadside's Brig - Remake 2023

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

Hello!

This is a redesigned version of the 6259 set, with a more modern look. In addition to the two soldiers, the set also features a captured pirate. A small desk, treasure chest and escape route from the prison have also been replaced. The roof of the building is removable and modular.

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Edited July 4, 2023 by MyFirstMOC-Hun

[Eggyslav]

I like this one, it fits nicely the style of the remade Eldorado Fortress. I like it how it recreates the original construction of the barred window in the pirate's cell, as well as the expansion, of the right side of the prison. The added play feature of removable cell door is also nice touch. My only gripe is the lack of modern prints on the minifigs, but I can understand the limitations here. Over all it's a really good remake, and compared to your previous entry it really looks like it could be a bona fide Lego set.

Edited June 29, 2023 by Eggyslav

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

1 hour ago, Eggyslav said:

I like this one, it fits nicely the style of the remade Eldorado Fortress. I like it how it recreates the original construction of the barred window in the pirate's cell, as well as the expansion, of the right side of the prison. The added play feature of removable cell door is also nice touch. My only gripe is the lack of modern prints on the minifigs, but I can understand the limitations here. Over all it's a really good remake, and compared to your previous entry it really looks like it could be a bona fide Lego set.

Thank you! 😉👍🏴‍☠️🍻

[iragm]

Nice work!  I have some suggestions:

• The rightmost 1/4 of the set is empty inside and serves no real purpose.  I would remove it entirely and make the set smaller overall.  Stick to the rule of thirds when redesigning it.  This goes for the placement of the red bricks, too -- they're all near the bottom or the top and they should be 1/3 of the way up the wall.
• The wedge corners (3x3 modified facet) bricks don't really fit.  It's mostly the transition from the square bottom level to the angled top level that's awkward.  If you must have the top be different, perhaps see how rounded bricks would look?
• There needs to be a palm tree to break up the wall of white and soften things a bit.
• I would like to see some kind of water to add color and contrast against the sand and wall (I think I had this same criticism about another of your builds, so it may be a stylistic preference).
• It doesn't look like there's an easy way to remove the jail cell door.  I'd add a handle or something.  I miss the spring action from Sheriff's Lock-Up, a play feature like that would be cool although dynamite doesn't really fit with pirates.
• There's too many white masonry bricks used here, IMHO.  Less is more, get rid of at least half of them and the wall would be a lot cleaner.  Perhaps even get rid of all of them -- Eldorado has barely any greebling except for the parts where the red bricks are exposed.

Overall, this is very good and I would probably buy it as-is if it were a set.

[MstrOfPppts]

Although I do own the original, this remake came out quite unrecognizable to me. Only the positioning of the rooms is similar, but for my taste it misses a lot more yellow, an at least an angled wall. I did eventually come to the right set, but there really weren't that many to guess from. The build itself is not bad at all, but it could easily be an entry of your own designed set. And I do agree that the fasade is way too greebley.

[Seaber]

I really like the overall look of this MOC, but there are a few things I think could make it a little better. 

First as you're sticking with the minifig lineup from the original set, I think you have made the brig too long. The interior details of the office are great and should be kept, but the empty space at the end should be got rid of. This will make the minifigures fill the space better, and the set will be more in line shape wise with the original. 

I like the way the soldiers can move across the whole of the roof now, the bridge is great. I'd suggest adding cheese slopes, tiles or ingot bricks on top of the walls though to get rid of the studs there, and if you were to make the fort smaller, perhaps move to the smaller flag. You could also move the chest and barrels from the empty office space up on top of the fort to make them more protected and make the area more interesting. 

I think the addition of stairs is great, as that was a feature often missing in the old Lego forts, however the large staircase piece does mean that there is a lot of dead space in front of the fort,which is hard to fill due to the small population of minifigures. Using black bars as iron rungs, or brown ones as a wooden ladder against the wall I think would look better and save space. You could then make the sandy area Smaller, and overall cut down on a lot of parts which look nice but make the MOC too big to be Broadside's Brig. 

 

[Dreamweb]

Well, this is quite an upgrade of the classic set, but nonetheless it's recognisable and the source of inspiration is clear to me.

I would add some plantlife to it. I know the original did not have any, but that's what remakes are for. A palm tree or some bushes would fill the empty areas at the back, on the tan-coloured ground. Also, while the set did not have a cannon, I would consider putting at least one here. This is because your building is much larger than the original and therefore needs to be more armed.

I like it very much that you've made the roof wider and turned the arch thing connecting both buildings into an actual bridge. The stairs are a great addition too. This adds plenty of playability to the whole thing and makes all parts of it accessible to the soldiers with no need to climb the walls.

The upgraded tan sand is much more realistic than the original yellow. Overall, this remake pays tribute to the original, but presents a much better model itself.

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

6 hours ago, Dreamweb said:

Well, this is quite an upgrade of the classic set, but nonetheless it's recognisable and the source of inspiration is clear to me.

I would add some plantlife to it. I know the original did not have any, but that's what remakes are for. A palm tree or some bushes would fill the empty areas at the back, on the tan-coloured ground. Also, while the set did not have a cannon, I would consider putting at least one here. This is because your building is much larger than the original and therefore needs to be more armed.

I like it very much that you've made the roof wider and turned the arch thing connecting both buildings into an actual bridge. The stairs are a great addition too. This adds plenty of playability to the whole thing and makes all parts of it accessible to the soldiers with no need to climb the walls.

The upgraded tan sand is much more realistic than the original yellow. Overall, this remake pays tribute to the original, but presents a much better model itself.

I was thinking about the cannon and more elements, for example vegetation, but when I looked at the number of pieces (and that was a problem before, that I build with much more elements than the original) I didn't want to add more elements.

13 hours ago, Seaber said:

I really like the overall look of this MOC, but there are a few things I think could make it a little better. 

First as you're sticking with the minifig lineup from the original set, I think you have made the brig too long. The interior details of the office are great and should be kept, but the empty space at the end should be got rid of. This will make the minifigures fill the space better, and the set will be more in line shape wise with the original. 

I like the way the soldiers can move across the whole of the roof now, the bridge is great. I'd suggest adding cheese slopes, tiles or ingot bricks on top of the walls though to get rid of the studs there, and if you were to make the fort smaller, perhaps move to the smaller flag. You could also move the chest and barrels from the empty office space up on top of the fort to make them more protected and make the area more interesting. 

I think the addition of stairs is great, as that was a feature often missing in the old Lego forts, however the large staircase piece does mean that there is a lot of dead space in front of the fort,which is hard to fill due to the small population of minifigures. Using black bars as iron rungs, or brown ones as a wooden ladder against the wall I think would look better and save space. You could then make the sandy area Smaller, and overall cut down on a lot of parts which look nice but make the MOC too big to be Broadside's Brig. 

 

When I first thought about the set, the side of the soldiers was smaller, but then I stacked the cubes and it ended up this big. I might create a smaller version of it. I'll see if I have the time, because I have a few more sets I'd like to redesign 😀.

[Dreamweb]

1 hour ago, MyFirstMOC-Hun said:

I was thinking about the cannon and more elements, for example vegetation, but when I looked at the number of pieces (and that was a problem before, that I build with much more elements than the original)

I don't think that the piece count is really a problem in the remake category. After all, doesn't the new Eldorado Fortress have a lot more parts than the 1989 original set?

[Horation]

An enlarged version of a classic, with a much better parts selection

Theme (story)

It's a brig, and it looks like one, albeit it is weird that it's called broadside's brig but he isn't present (not complaining-the original had the same problem). However, it has no water or boat, so where will the pirate escape to? The interior feels spacious but full, with some food inside (always nice to have some food in Lego sets), I'll forgive the lack of beds, since it is such a small set, but perhaps consider a hammock (for the men to sleep)?

Build

The fireplace is too small (not the only entry with that flaw), and while some folks like it when there are tons of masonry bricks, it creates small gaps when looking at the side of the columns, so I would alternate between such parts and regular 1x2 bricks, and this would be closer to the original style, and please consider adding a few dark red masonry bricks (like the 2015 wave), it'll make it look less uniform, and as I've said to many other builders, too much white looks too clean. Though overall the build looks quite detailed and uses a good variety of parts and classic colours.

A nice concept executed well, I have little that I can complain about

 

[thewatchman]

A lot to love here!

 And I’m currently working on my version of this exact same redesign but we went in very different directions!

pros:

a fantastic expansion 

a real bridge!

modern parts like white bricks make this come to life.

cons:

not instantly recognisable as bsb 

I’d love a bit more yellow 

feels a bit like a western themed fortress

good work though, I do like seeing what others took from the build they were inspired by!

[LetsBrick]

My thoughts:

• This was one of my favourite sets as a kid. Obviously a bit larger than the original but does keep the does keep the idea of the footprint.
• As much as I like the detail on the 'sand' with multiple levels of tan plates, I dont think an official set would have this much detail at least not with a set of this size.
• I know the original set had 3 minifigures but even though this one is bigger I think 3 is a good number for this set. You could have fit 5 minifigs in but they might feel a little pointless, even if they're not squishy.
• I feel the top level is a little vacant though, if you squeeze 1 or 2 details up there it might look a little more lived in.
• I do love the detachable top level, mine are always clunky when I try but your looks really clean.

[zinnn]

I had this set as a kid and loved it. Fantastic remake, I love you how made it bigger and more realistic, especially the more yellow version with a tree stands out! Yet another amazing build.

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

12 minutes ago, zinnn said:

I had this set as a kid and loved it. Fantastic remake, I love you how made it bigger and more realistic, especially the more yellow version with a tree stands out! Yet another amazing build.

Thank you very much! 👍😎🏴‍☠️🍻

[Horation]

On 6/29/2023 at 1:53 PM, MyFirstMOC-Hun said:

Hello!

This is a redesigned version of the 6259 set, with a more modern look. In addition to the two soldiers, the set also features a captured pirate. A small desk, treasure chest and escape route from the prison have also been replaced. The roof of the building is removable and modular.

 

Love what you've done with the yellow! Now the back looks good, but I'd just try to change a few of those green pieces for beige, to make it fit in with the rest of the build(though I'll admit this is a personal choice, and isn't that important to the overall build). I really like how you use the ingot piece in every way but its intended purpose, especially the neat trick for the ingot-based gun holes.

Edited July 17, 2023 by Horation
Too long

[iragm]

The community feedback edition is a huge improvement over the original!  The green and palm tree make such a difference.  Nice work!

[LucSoleBricks]

Looks absolutely amazing! 

[MyFirstMOC-Hun]

1 hour ago, LucSoleBricks said:

Looks absolutely amazing! 

Thank you! 🏴‍☠️🍻👍😉😀

On 7/8/2023 at 6:59 PM, iragm said:

The community feedback edition is a huge improvement over the original!  The green and palm tree make such a difference.  Nice work!

Thank you! 👍😉🍻🏴‍☠️

[Rogue Redcoat]

First, update the minifigs, and add a bit more red to the build white walls. Other than that I love the crumbling walls and the removable jail cell.  Anyway, Happy building :)

[Mazin]

Stunning! Nice job dude. I must admit tho that i prefer Your second photo, this one would make a better "cover" in my opinion, as there's a lot more going on the back, inner side of this facility than on the front, the front here is it's actual back ;)

Also the back view clearly shows us all the cool stuff that we would get if little kids inside our minds would connince our inner parents to spend all those bucks on this beauty :)  

Front is estheticaly spectacular, but other than that it's kinda boring when it comes to playability and visual. Not that it's bad! It's just that it's one long structure realy, and not anything like Eldorado realy ;)

I must admit i absolutely love the railing, realy glad You came up with idea to make this top platform look different from inner and outer side. And prison escape is briliant! 

My only suggestion tho, maybe that loose wall in jail could fall to the outside of the whole compound? Right now it kinda looks like if he would only escape to the courtyard, so that he still is actually trapped. And since this whole set looks like if it would be something connectable with other sets, to make even bigger compound, he would be escaping straight into an another wall. 

If You would take this idea under consideration You could then also add a horserider with a line trying to remove those prison bars, just like in western movies :)  

Also, i would remove that barrier from the gate, i understand that this might be just a temporary barricade, to repel a possible pirate attack? But then again, it doesn't make much sense since there is a huge hole/window in the right part of structure already ;) I'd use those bricks from the barricade to close off that dangerous part... Unless, that's the way Soldiers prefer to have it to defend themselves ;)

And then the gate itself, mayve it's could gain some sort of decoration over it's entyway? Like crossed halberds, something simple that could work like it's front sign and warning? 

Still, even the way it is it's something I think it's fantastic work and I'd love if it was a real thing, preferably to get it in multiple copies, as it's both goodlooking, playable and offers plenty of parts that would help expand it into something even bigger ;)

 

[NOD]

It is very beautiful, interesting and varied in construction. From the front I see a fortification that is partially damaged. The rear view is very interesting. A staircase leads to the defense platform with the cannon. On the left is a rifle ready to hand in the holder. A delicious stew is being cooked on the fireplace. In addition, there is an escape route from the prison.

I really like how everything is built, it has a more modern look and is very interesting!

[US_Army_Tom]

Hello! I really like this build and love the details you have throughout the set. Very tight, compact, yet highly detailed and playable. This is a top contender in my humble opinion and gets after the spirit of this contest beautifully. I rank it up there with the Carribean Clipper I commented on above. Very nicely done!

[durazno33]

Looking good! Nice color selection, texturing, and sizing. One small suggestion is that the lanterns are hung a bit low and would block the soldier's view (as they are at face level) Maybe consider raising them up a brick so they are out of the line of sight for the minifigures.