agena Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 I bought the lego 42111 doms charger technic set from amazon, the box came worn with cellotape attached to it. See images, so it looked open But the booklet says 'tehnice' and the packs im sure have grey lines and numbers on them? And I'm pretty sure compared from images online this booklet is huge Is this a fake lego set? Thanks See images here, its not letting me upload all of them on here. https://imgur.com/a/SmoU6lB Quote
Tazmancrash Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Box looks legit. Instructions are fake. Its hard to tell about the parts from those photos. I'd be betting there fake though. Quote
msk6003 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Ins is fake. Considering packing qulity maybe part also fake but need to check tire. Quote
BrickMonkeyMOCs Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Instructions are clearly fake. There's no Lego logo on the studs for the 2x2 round plate in the last photo, so those are not Lego parts. Quote
markaus Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Good to know fakes come this obvious from amazon, since learning about how they co-mingle all 3rd party sellers inventory together with their own ive stopped buying all lego from there. I had assumed they'd at least make the box look pristine to stop you noticing all the other issues. I dont believe ive ever seen the tyres bagged for the larger technic cars. As you pointed out the bags should also come numbered. You also wont ever see the blue 3L pins or the longer beams all bagged together like that. The 11x15 frame also comes loose, dont see that in your pic though Quote
dr_spock Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 LEGO would put the registered trademark symbol on their red logo on the box. Quote
howitzer Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Yep, a fake it is. You should pursue all available means to get your money back. Quote
Saruzeufel Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 tell amazon support that you received a heavily damaged box, containing fake parts and if they still do not refund you, just say it was supposed to be a gift for your nephew. They usually refund the full amount and you can keep the junk Quote
JaBaCaDaBra Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) You should actually never buy from mr Bezos with his idiot staff treatment. But if you do, pay with creditcard ONLY so you can always get your money back in case of problems. Edited May 12, 2023 by JaBaCaDaBra Quote
Aleh Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 6 hours ago, BrickMonkeyMOCs said: There's no Lego logo on the studs for the 2x2 round plate in the last photo, so those are not Lego parts. I've noticed the same. 1 hour ago, JaBaCaDaBra said: But if you do, pay with creditcard ONLY so you can always get your money back in case of problems. Doubt it. To get money back from seller you have to proove you bought a fake. Bank won't return money "just because you want it". Quote
blondasek Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 So @agena - it is a "common" scam lately -> someone is buying something original. Then is making a return because of "damaged box" but is sending back the fake. Really often, as I see you did buy this as a used/opened set (amazon warehouse sticker), employees are not aware of that and they are refunding the money to the scammer. Just report it to Amazon with pictures, you will get money back with no problem, Amazon does not play chicken while it is about the refunds. @Aleh actually, chargeback is working really well. Visa/Mastercard are helping you when the store/seller are making problems. I know because I did use it a few times already from different reasons. The only thing which Visa/Mastercard (I am not sure how it works with amex or different issuers) requires is the proof (mails, pictures) that you did try to resolve the dispute with store/seller and you are reaching out for chargeback as a last resource. Works like charm :) Quote
agena Posted May 12, 2023 Author Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) I just checked on amazon. It was sold by amazon eu sarl Could EU lego boxes be different to UK ones? Hence looking like this? Edited May 12, 2023 by agena Quote
BrickMonkeyMOCs Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, agena said: I just checked on amazon. It was sold by amazon eu sarl Could EU lego boxes be different to UK ones? Hence looking like this? The box is Lego, but the contents are not. As suggested above, someone has likely scammed Amazon by buying a new set, opening it, and then swapping out the contents for a fake knock-off before returning it for a refund. Amazon have then unknowingly resold it to you as an opened 'Lego' set. At least that seems to be the most likely explanation. Quote
JaBaCaDaBra Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Aleh said: Bank won't return money "just because you want it". Visa card service will absolutely do if you send them proof (foto's) of imitation parts. It's not a bank, banks wont return, creditcards however have a strong customer protection. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, BrickMonkeyMOCs said: The box is Lego, but the contents are not. As suggested above, someone has likely scammed Amazon by buying a new set, opening it, and then swapping out the contents for a fake knock-off before returning it for a refund. Amazon have then unknowingly resold it to you as an opened 'Lego' set. At least that seems to be the most likely explanation. Nah, even the box looks fake - crappy cardboard and no trademark symbol on the LEGO logo. Quote
Void_S Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, BrickMonkeyMOCs said: There's no Lego logo on the studs for the 2x2 round plate in the last photo, so those are not Lego parts. Moreover, one of the studs has a mark of mold injection inlet - that is never presented in original LEGO molds for this part. box - questionable ( @Maaboo35 is right, the "TM" mark must follow the "Technic" logo) instructions - fake (no logo, incorrect naming) parts - fake, incorrect molds. 23 minutes ago, JaBaCaDaBra said: Visa card service will absolutely do if you send them proof (foto's) of imitation parts. It's not a bank, banks wont return, creditcards however have a strong customer protection. Yeah, it is a chargeback story, when you bought some good or some service that wasn't provided to you (didn't reach you, that happened to be a fake, was terminated with no possibility to use, etc.) Edited May 12, 2023 by Void_S Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Also, a tiny part of the art to the right of the real box is cut off on the box seen here. EDIT: Also also, I've come across a listing for this fake "Technice" version. The set number is 6001. I haven't tried the link so I won't post it here. Edited May 12, 2023 by Maaboo35 Quote
JaBaCaDaBra Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Maaboo35 said: Also, a tiny part of the art to the right of the real box is cut off on the box seen here. Not only that, that sticker "amazon warehouse" on the box would I consider as heavy damage to the box and be reason to send it back for refund or chargeback. I Had a simlar problem here at a toy shop that wanted to put a sticker on box AFTER I paid it, I refused but they kept trying, I had to warm them that there were at the point of damaging my property and that I would call the police and make a shitload of trouble in their shop. Quote
Jurss Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 I suppose, somebody bought original and fake, then packed fake in original box, and returned to amazon. Then amazon sold it again to some lucky person. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Jurss said: I suppose, somebody bought original and fake, then packed fake in original box, and returned to amazon. Then amazon sold it again to some lucky person. The box isn't genuine either. Quote
Jurss Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Maaboo35 said: isn't genuine Why do You think so? Looks pretty original. Quote
BrickMonkeyMOCs Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Maaboo35 said: The box isn't genuine either. You're right. The different cardboard and lack of trademark symbols gives it away. The fake box makes it a bit more curious how it ended up on Amazon being sold as Lego though. I found a couple of videos of the fake set on YouTube, but neither one shipped with any box at all. In any case, the OP definitely needs to seek a refund. Should be easy to prove that the product provided is not what was ordered. Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jurss said: Why do You think so? Looks pretty original. It isn't. In any case, I've already explained why. Edited May 12, 2023 by Maaboo35 Quote
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